[Infowarrior] - Compromise Reached on Senate Shield Law
Richard Forno
rforno at infowarrior.org
Sat Oct 31 02:19:02 UTC 2009
Compromise Reached on Senate Shield Law
Q&A with Newspaper Association counsel Paul Boyle
By Clint Hendler
http://www.cjr.org/campaign_desk/compromise_reached_on_senate_s.php?page=all
Today the prime Senate sponsors of the Free Flow of Information Act—
or, as it’s commonly known, the shield bill—announced that they’d
reached a compromise with the White House on the bill’s most
contentious issues: who would be considered a journalist, and just how
much protection journalists would get from subpoenas demanding
testimony.
The compromise bill’s definition of who is a journalist—or, in
legislatese, a “covered person”—is surprisingly expansive. It sets up
no payment or employment test, and therefore would clearly cover
student journalists, freelancers, book authors, and any blogger who
regularly practices journalism.
The bill treats the balancing act between forcing testimony and
granting shield to journalists receiving subpoenas differently,
depending on whether the subpoena is brought in a civil trial or a
criminal trial. In a civil trial journalists are the most protected—
the litigant would be forced to demonstrate why their need for the
information would serve a greater public interest that the
journalist’s need to protect their source or the information they
obtained. In a criminal trial, the situation is somewhat reversed: the
journalist would be forced to demonstrate by a higher standard—“clear
and convincing” is the proposal’s term—that their need to protect
confidential sources or information outweighs the public interest to
be gained by providing testimony. Journalists who get subpoenas for
information that could prevent a future act of terrorism or other
specific harm to national security would get no balancing protection,
and would be forced to testify.
Newspaper Association of America general counsel Paul Boyle, who has
been intimately involved in efforts to bring a federal shield law to
life, spoke briefly with CJR following a conference call discussing
the compromise with representatives of media organizations.
Clint Hendler: What were the biggest concessions that the White House
was willing to make between their September preferred language and
what’s been arrived at today?
Paul Boyle: Well, I think the White House originally would say that
there’s no public interest balancing act for leak investigations
involving national security. And they also said that there would not
be a public interest balancing in civil cases that put the burden on
civil litigants that put the burden on the litigants to make the case
that the public interest would be served by having the disclosure.
In criminal cases they were originally saying it would have to be
extraordinary circumstances for the covered person to make the case
that the public interest in news gathering outweighed the compelled
disclosure. And they’ve changed that to say that a covered person must
make the case by clear and convincing evidence in news gathering and
free flow of information outweighs public disclosure. That was a
really big trade off. The weight on the scale is sort of tilted
towards the government in that section, and the weight on the scale is
sort of tilted toward the media in the civil section.
CH: In terms of the actual history of reporters’ subpoenas, isn’t the
fact of the matter that most of them come in civil cases? So maybe
that’s where stronger protections are needed more of the time.
PB: That’s true. That’s right. And I think that in that situation it’s
kind of an unusual thing to ask reporters to reveal confidential
sources. You could still get the information, but you’d have to show
that the public interest in doing so really outweighs the public
interest in news gathering and the free flow of information.
CH: Civil cases are treated a little differently than criminal cases,
and criminal cases involving national security and terrorism are
treated quite differently than regular criminal cases. Are those the
three categories for the different enforcement of the balancing act
under the bill?
PB: Yeah. Section 5 is a critical component; it’s the national
security exception. At one point, to compel disclosure to prevent
significant and articulatable harm to national security or to prevent
a terrorist attack there was public interest balance on whether or not
disclosure was in the public interest. And that’s gone. And, in
reality, if we knew where Osama bin Laden was located, the media would
turn that information over. But if the government wanted to compel
that, they could say “That’s specific and articulatable harm. We want
to prevent a terrorist attack.” We’d never win that case.
But if there were a leak situation, that would go under the criminal
area. If there were a leak investigation looking at the CIA prison
story, or the warantless wiretapping leak, Abu Ghraib, it would go
under section two, or the criminal section. If you were investigating
a past leak you would have public interest balancing. The reporter
would at least have the ability to say “Here, there’s clear and
convincing evidence to say that this story was valuable to the
public,” and be able to make the case that the source could be
protected. But if there were a leak that the government could
demonstrate that there’s going to be significant and articulatable
harm, or potential for a terrorist attack from that leak, then they
could get the information.
CH: Let’s take as a recent example the Times’s wiretapping story. Many
people argued that that story did make attacks more likely. Is that a
case where there would be a battle about whether or not that argument—
that attacks would be more likely because the program was exposed—was
far enough along the line of a significant and articulatable harm?
PB: You can’t really look at any kind of case and try to predict the
outcome. It all depends on how it’s presented, and the facts. I think
what’s important with this bill is that you know what the rules and
procedures are, so you don’t have to spend any energy and time and
resources knowing where the lines are drawn. In that situation, I
imagine lawyers would argue that it revealed that this was going on to
members of Congress and the general public, and led to legislation
enacted by Congress to change warrantless wiretapping. These things
are going to be balanced out and judges are fully capable of balancing
the competing interests on both sides. And they do it everyday.
This bill was never about a particular case. It was always about clear
rules of procedure and giving guidance to the courts. And I think case
law will develop.
CH: In the event of a criminal leak investigation, the argument that
that leaker might leak again wouldn’t be sufficient to compel
testimony from a covered person. Is that correct?
PB: Yes. The language is fairly complex. It says the government can’t,
on its face, say the fact that the leaser would leak again. That’s not
good enough. They have to provide further evidence that there’s going
to be the potential for a future leak, and present facts to that.
With this bill, on national security leaks, for the most part the
government can’t go up there and say “We need the information for
national security.” They’ve got to demonstrate why they need the
information. On leaks, it protects that perspective; it provides
balancing when the government is looking back.
CH: You were on this conference call that just broke up. How is this
being received?
PB: I think there was a lot of good discussion. There was discussion
about the clear and convincing evidence standard, and whether or not
that was too much of a give. There were some folks who were concerned
about that, and there was some conversation about whether non-
confidential information was protected. It’s much clearer in the house
bill that there’s protection for non-confidential information.
CH: So, information that was given without the explicit promise of it
being confidential?
PB: Correct. But generally speaking, at the end of the day, people
felt this was a good compromise worth our support if indeed this gets
the administration to support the bill and we can get this to the
president’s desk.
CH: And there’s still a long way to go.
PB: Absolutely!
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