[published in Jan 1997 issue of Internet Underground] [submitted as letter to editor regarding article] Regarding Carolyn Meinel's article in Issue 12. Like other journalists, Carolyn portrays the whole idea of hacking completely wrong. It should be noted that the "happy hacker" mail list of which she speaks is not some super discussion about the world of hacking, but a moderated list where Carolyn posts her own "hacking tutorials". According to Carolyn, most of the hackers today are nothing more than "script kiddies" who run other people's code to exploit a system. She maintains that these people aren't hackers, but wannabes. When asked if she has ever developed her own exploit code, she answers "no". "Take down Web sites..." strikes a bad note with any real hacker, elite or not. The point of hacking is not to be malicious in any way. The way of a hacker is exploring, learning, experimenting.. not destroying. I don't understand how someone who professes to teach the basics of hacking can say something like this. She also maintains that Ira Winkler supports the mail list, and is developing a game to help people learn to hack better. Don't you find it weird that a "computer crime detective" would support this? Sounds like he is looking for job security to me. His idea of a network for hackers to 'legally' play on smacks of big brother. What better way to see who is a real player in the hacker world, and watch as new techniques are developed? The last thing Carolyn doesn't tell the faithful readers about is her numerous book deals. Four books she is working on, articles like this, and other writing ventures. Where does she get the information to do this? From the real hackers on other mail lists. Carolyn is simply into this "hacking thing" to make money, much like other journalists. She has no real noble purpose in mind beyond a quick dollar. If you do subcribe to her list, make sure you pay attention to responses to her "hacking lessons". Instead of lessons on how to "hack", you get trivial lessons on basic unix commands published in any unix book. The responses to her mail clear up the misconceptions she brings and adds technical information to the misleading information she posts. -Damien Sorder