From: security curmudgeon (jericho[at]attrition.org)
To: Jele Cingero (pijantic@hotmail.com)
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 23:34:22 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: Re: I am looking for a hacker!

: To do a job for me
:
: can u do it for me?

I get a lot of requests, why is yours so special?

From: security curmudgeon (jericho[at]attrition.org)
To: Jele Cingero (pijantic@hotmail.com)
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 23:50:02 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: RE: I am looking for a hacker!

: things that they wrote about piano professors there: RL, AH,
: UT, or KN - or any other professors
: there as well. I need this as evidence, so that I can proove my
: innocence.

Demonstrating that those people sent sexual messages about a teacher does
not prove you did not.

From: security curmudgeon (jericho[at]attrition.org)
To: Jele Cingero (pijantic@hotmail.com)
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 00:19:00 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: RE: I am looking for a hacker!

: Yeah I know but if I show that it goes on, it gives me more chance that
: prooves I was innocent... ok?

I'm sorry, that isn't how it works in any court, the eyes of authority or
at any school. Ten people including you doing wrong does not mean you are
somehow innocent, and they will not excuse it as acceptable. They will
just punish all of you.

: It was all very very dumb. She told me something like I dont sleep with
: my husband but with my son..because he snores. And I just wrote that -
: like she doesn't sleep with her husband...and they interpreted that...

Your best bet is to write a polite letter that fully explains the
situation, accept responsibility for anything you did wrong, and ask for a
second chance.

: So could you do this for me? like my whole career is at stake - I have
: to get them to belive me that so many students do this.... and its not
: such a big deal like they think it is. Plus a lot of teachers talk this
: way too - its very hypocritical..

Again, multiple people doing it will not change school policy.

Look, dozens of requests like this a day, and your request will not help
you get out of trouble. Really doesn't seem worth the time.

From: security curmudgeon (jericho[at]attrition.org)
To: Jele Cingero (pijantic@hotmail.com)
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 00:19:49 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: RE: I am looking for a hacker!

: Do you charge?

I have in the past, but not always. It depends on what needs done and
more importantly, why.

From: security curmudgeon (jericho[at]attrition.org)
To: Jele Cingero (pijantic@hotmail.com)
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 00:25:02 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: RE: I am looking for a hacker!

: I mean if I think that this will help - how can u tell me that you think
: it wont?  A LOT of people from that school reported me - like I think
: there was like 10 of them! Why woulldn't I get them in trouble? And the
: teachers were asking me for names later, of who does this kind of thing.

It *would* get them in trouble, but it would *not* get you out of trouble.
That is simply knowing how the world works with a dose of some Logic 101
book I read in third grade.

: Trust me - if I proove everyone does it, they will belive me more

Yes, they will believe a) you did it too and b) may have done something
illegal to prove they did it too.

Again, this is not compelling at all.

From: security curmudgeon (jericho[at]attrition.org)
To: Jele Cingero (pijantic@hotmail.com)
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 00:27:49 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: RE: I am looking for a hacker!

: look if you dont want to do it dont do it. Like I said my career is on
: the line

I understand that. FEDERAL PRISON is on the line for me, if I opt to do
this. Show some compassion and understanding =(

From: security curmudgeon (jericho[at]attrition.org)
To: Jele Cingero (pijantic@hotmail.com)
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 00:28:37 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: RE: I am looking for a hacker!

: I will go through a lie- detector test as well! and I do have proof -
: lots of people saying I didnt mean it/say it and stuff.

Which goes back to that "polite letter" I mentioned. That will go a
longer way than saying "well everyone else did it!"

From: security curmudgeon (jericho[at]attrition.org)
To: Jele Cingero (pijantic@hotmail.com)
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 00:30:36 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: RE: I am looking for a hacker!

: they were illegal when they broke into my facebook message!!!

Mention that in the letter. Explain to them that "evidence" illegally
obtained is not considered admissable in a court of law, and should not
be considered in the school's policy either.

From: security curmudgeon (jericho[at]attrition.org)
To: Jele Cingero (pijantic@hotmail.com)
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 00:31:53 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: Re: FW: I am looking for a hacker!

: Look I do not come to you for advice - about what I need to do. Like I
: said I asked you nicely you dont have to do it... Thanks

No, you came to me to commit a felony on your behalf. Worse, not just
across US state line, but international lines as well. Why you think
someone would do that for you without asking questions and making sure
you exhausted all possibilities is baffling me.

From: security curmudgeon (jericho[at]attrition.org)
To: Jele Cingero (pijantic@hotmail.com)
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 00:36:19 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: RE: I am looking for a hacker!


: But they still accused me!! and kicked me out! They think they can do
: whatever they want..

Because they can =)

If you did all that and they won't change their minds, then showing other
students did it will not help you. It will only serve as a form of
revenge.

Revenge leads to darkness. Darkness leads to evil. Evil leads to Lyger.

You should really consider that, because Lyger is a pretty bad guy. The
kind that would hack MY mailbox and send all these mails to your school to
ensure you'd never get back in.

Shhh, I think he is listening.

AFK

From: security curmudgeon (jericho[at]attrition.org)
To: Jele Cingero (pijantic@hotmail.com)
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 00:42:24 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: RE: I am looking for a hacker!

: but nobady will know you did it!!!

Yet you know they did..

: And they did it to me too - so its not a big deal

Just against the law and subject to time in prison. No biggie!

From: security curmudgeon (jericho[at]attrition.org)
To: Jele Cingero (pijantic@hotmail.com)
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 00:43:05 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: RE: I am looking for a hacker!


: please dont contact me again

ok