[VIM] Vulnerabilities Hashes DB needed (fwd)

Sun May 6 17:21:32 UTC 2007

Hopefully down the road this person will disclose the vendor that did 
this. I've heard other people run into the same situation occasionally, 
but it would be nice to see if there is a trend or common vendor doing 
this.

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: shadown <shadown at gmail.com>
To: dailydave at lists.immunitysec.com, full-disclosure at lists.grok.org.uk,
     bugtraq at securityfocus.com
Date: Sun, 6 May 2007 17:45:45 +0200
Subject: [Full-disclosure] Vulnerabilities Hashes DB needed

[Moderator: I ask you to accept this mail, so that the comunity may come
with a solution. Thanks in advance.]

Hi,

During the near past I have to confront some issues when reporting
vulnerabilities to the vendors, I'm not going to disclose the vendor's names
because is not the goal of this mail, but to become with a solution. I'm
asking the researches comunity and whoever can help us to come with the best
solution. In this mail I'll explain my reasons and what I think is the best
solution (actually I've borow the idea from others) and ask the comunity if
someone thinks that is a better one.

Reasons:
--------------

1- I've contacted with some vendor and after getting the right security
contact to send the vulnerabilities I've sent the pgped PoC files. Then the
vendor didn't come any more to me. After a month I've contacted the vendor
again, the vendor said: 'oh, I didn't receive the mail'. I've resent the
mail and the vendor replayed: 'I've tryed the PoC files and none of them
worked, probably our internal testing team found them'. After receiving that
answer from the vendor I've downloaded the software again and the
vulnerabilities were fixed. I did a binary diffing to analyze OLD vs. NEW
version and extraordinary...the bug I've reported + two other bugs where
fixed, what was a bit suspicious. I've ask about this to the vendor and the
vendor replayed the following:

"""
  It's hard to imagine that the respective fix would be directly related to
your files because we haven't had them. Don't get me wrong, we have no
problem crediting anyone who reports bugs to us, helping us to improve our
software (just as we did e.g. in the case of version XXXXX where we
credited XXX YYYY - see
http://www.linktothecredit ) but I
don't think this applies here, really...

Sorry - maybe you can find some other overruns in the current build? (or,
even better, in the build that's coming out in about a week - because that
one has some new fixes in it, too [so it's theoretically possible you'd hit
something that has already been fixed, too]).
"""

This was the case with one vendor, and pretty similar situation with others.
(ofcourse there were excelent comunication with some other vendors, but is
out of the scope of the solution that I want to come with.)
2- There are some vendors that are really dificult to deal with. It took me
about 4 months to get the right contact to report the bugs, and this would
be another think to think about, A public 'Vendor's Vulnerability Reporting
Contact DB/List'.

As I do believe in responsible disclosure, I don't agree with 'giving up and
launchin 0days' so that vendors eat their s**t, the following is what I
think is the best solution for it.

Solution:
-------------

First of all: I've taken this idea from matasano and Halvar, that were the
ones I've seen that did this in the past.
The main mailling list should create a 'Vulnerabilities Hashes mailing list'
where the researches comunity can send the hashes of the PoC files just
before they conctact the vendors. That way if the vendors do not give the
proper credits to the researchers, at least the researches will have another
proof to show that they were the ones that reported the vulnerabilities, and
not just the mails they've crossed with the vendors.

Final Comments:
-------------------------

I'm pretty sure that a lot of researches has this kind of problems in the
past and this is really frustrating.

*** I don't want this mail to end up being a: "Oh, yes, I have this problem
with xxx", and so. Please don't do that because is NOT the goal of this
mail. Just bring your ideas to improve this and to make this 'Vulnerability
Hashes mailling list' to happen. ***

The following is are the MD5, SHA-1 and SHA-256 hashes of the
vulnerabilities that I'll be reporting to the vendors after sending and
seeing the post in the mailling list. This is a verdors based hashes,
because probably in some cases the PoC files behind this hashes may affect
other vendors, but as I didn't try with other vendors I don't deserve the
credits for the vendors that I didn't spot vulnerabilities, if other
researcher finds the same bugs in other vendors, they are the ones that
deserve the credits for that.

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Cheers,
   Sergio

-- 
Sergio Alvarez
Security, Research & Development
IT Security Consultant
email: shadown at gmail.com

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