[Infowarrior] - Legislators want to hear from domestic spying witness

[Richard Forno]

 Legislators want to hear from domestic spying witness
http://www.govexec.com/story_page.cfm?articleid=34312&sid=28
By Chris Strohm, CongressDaily
More lawmakers are clamoring on Capitol Hill to hear from a former
intelligence officer who alleges that unlawful activity took place at the
National Security Agency.

House Government Reform National Security Subcommittee Chairman Christopher
Shays, R-Conn., and ranking member Dennis Kucinich, D-Ohio, have told the
NSA they want to hear from Russell Tice, who worked on what are known as
"special access programs" at the agency until he was fired in May 2005.

Tice alleges that the NSA conducted illegal and unconstitutional
surveillance of U.S. citizens while he was there with the knowledge of its
former director, Air Force Gen. Michael Hayden, who is now director of the
CIA.

During an 18-year career, Tice worked on some of the most secretive programs
in the government. He would not discuss with a reporter the details of his
allegations, saying doing so would compromise classified information and put
him at risk of going to jail. Tice said his information is different from
the terrorist surveillance program that President Bush acknowledged in
December and from news accounts last month that the NSA has been secretly
collecting phone call records of millions of Americans.

Because he worked on special access programs, however, it has not been clear
on Capitol Hill which committees have jurisdiction to debrief him. Shays and
Kucinich gave the NSA until Friday to explain any legal reason why they
cannot interview him.

But that deadline passed without a response, and a subcommittee aide on
Monday called the missed deadline troubling. Shays and Kucinich had
originally asked the NSA to give them a reason by May 26, but the agency
asked for an extension until June 9.

NSA spokesman Don Weber said Monday that the agency "is performing due
diligence in developing a response to the committee's request," but added
that Tice has not notified the agency of the alleged illegal activity. Tice
said he does not believe he needs to notify the agency of his allegations.

Tice originally wrote letters last December asking to meet with the Senate
and House Intelligence committees. He got a meeting earlier this year with
staff from the House Intelligence Committee, but they told him they were not
cleared to hear what he had to say. Instead, Tice met last month in a closed
session with senior staff from the Senate Armed Services Committee.

Tice said he told the staffers everything he knew. But he said the aides did
not say how, or if, they would follow up on his allegations. Shays and
Kucinich believe that the House Government Reform Committee has jurisdiction
to hear from Tice. In a May 17 letter to the NSA, the lawmakers argue that
they can hear from Tice because the House Intelligence Committee does not
have exclusive jurisdiction over special access programs that Tice worked.

"If the SAP [special access programs] does not fall under the exclusive
jurisdiction of [the House Intelligence Committee], but rather under the
jurisdiction of the Armed Services Committee, the House rules provide that
the Government Reform Committee may exercise oversight jurisdiction to
investigate allegations of illegal activity under that government program,"
the letter said.

Tice was fired after the NSA ordered him to undergo psychological
evaluations following a separate clash with agency leadership, and
psychologists diagnosed him as being paranoid. Tice claimed the order to
undergo psychological evaluations was retaliation for raising concerns. He
also said he saw an independent psychologist who found no evidence that he
has a mental disorder.