From paran0id at luukku.com Wed Apr 14 16:26:19 2004
From: paran0id at luukku.com (Paran0iD)
Date: Wed Apr 14 16:29:40 2004
Subject: [hardcore] pan sonic - kesto
Message-ID: <002101c4225e$beee1240$da43c551@soren0id>
http://www.carolinedist.com/news/news.asp?id=489
PAN SONIC RELEASE NEW ALBUM, KESTO, AVAILABLE ONLY AS 4CD BOX SET
PAN SONIC
New Album: KESTO (234:48:4)
Release Date: May 18, 2004
"There is no theory for PAN SONIC. We have no plan. We just make the music."
(Mika Vainio)
KESTO (234:48:4) is a brand new quartet of compact discs from PAN SONIC
(Mika Vainio and Ilpo Vaisanen) available only as one complete set.
This is an epic work in the true sense of the word.
The title means "strength" or "duration", entirely appropriate in both the
size of this work (over four hours of new music) and the scale of the band's
adventures since the release of their last album Aaltopiiri in 2001.
Directly after Aaltopiiri's release, uninspired by the traditional rock and
roll performance circuit they had so elegantly mastered since their public
birth in 1995, PAN SONIC undertook a mammoth round-the-world tour that was
organized via an enthusiastic response to two small adverts in The Wire
music magazine. The adverts invited promoters, fans or the merely curious to
offer the band a range of far flung locations and exotic venues in which to
perform. In exchange, the band asked only for the promise of accommodation
and a percentage of any profits that the event might generate. They received
hundreds of offers, which resulted in a eight-week-long expedition that took
them from their base in Barcelona to Singapore, Sydney, Melbourne, Auckland,
Papeete, Easter Island, Buenos Aires, Tijuana, Mexico City, San Francisco,
Seattle, Portland, Edmonton, Calgary, Winnipeg, Princeton University, and
Reykjavik. In the course of the tour they played in every type of venue,
from major concert halls to back street "rumbatini" shacks, gathering
inspirational atmospheres from a wide and wild variety of events including a
monkeys' tea party, an Easter Island shebeen, late night hot springs and
frozen snow baths, audio recordings of the famous stone heads of Easter
Island and the lo rider cars of Tijuana, and working with a 40-member
Icelandic choir.
They had fully expected to continue on for another four weeks by driving to
events in Poland, the Czech Republic, Hungary, Croatia, Serbia, Turkey,
Israel and Greece, but Mika Vainio fell ill through the physical and mental
stress of almost constant travel and performances, causing the Eastern Bloc
section to be cancelled. The travelogue recommenced in Istanbul and was
completed in Athens, but Mika vowed from there on in that touring would
consist of no more than four consecutive performances.
After a lengthy period of recovery Mika relocated himself and their studio
to Berlin from their first temporary home of Barcelona, where they had moved
in 1998 to escape the long Finnish winters in their hometown of Turku, 100
miles west of Helsinki.
The original discussions of ideas for the new recordings were based around
Mika's favorite painter Francis Bacon and his use of the triptych (a format
Bacon used a number of times in his lifetime). Always pushing the
boundaries, PAN SONIC were inspired to go on to record a fourth part.
Those familiar with PAN SONIC's work may detect a correlation between their
use of sound and Bacon's use of paint; the KESTO recordings represent a
substantial new depth and vitality in the quality of their sound palette
that brings a newfound life force and delicate violence into their music.
PAN SONIC have remained true to their original and pioneering use of their
special handmade analog tone generators, more old radio set than
synthesisers, with the occasional use of digital samplers for the more
rhythmic sounds. They still record live to DAT tape in real time with no
overdubbing.
The sounds within are complemented by the award winning photography of
fellow Finnish artist Anne Hamalainen.
Meet the "quadruplets":
(As PAN SONIC often use a form of slang or "twisted" Finnish words, for this
release they have added their nearest understanding of the Finnish meaning
in English wherever possible to help listeners to integrate the source
atmosphere into the tracks)
KESTO (234:48:4) = 234 minutes, 48 seconds, 4 milliseconds
CD1
01. Rahina 1/ Mayhem 1
02. Mutaaattori / Mutator
03. Onkalo / Cavity
04. Pakoisvoima / Fugalforce
05. Louhi
06. Rahina II / Mayhem II
07. Tiimu / Halter
08. Keskeisvoima / Central force
09. Vahentaja / Diminisher
10. Rahina III / Mayhem III
11. Lautturi / Rafter
12. Painovoima / Gravity
CD2
01. Etaisyys / Distance
02. Konnat / Toads
03. Virtamuuntaja / Current-Transformer
04. Tasmania
05. Johto 5 / Cable 5
06. Valomuuntaja / Light-Transformer
07. Altistus / Exposure
08. Routa-olio / Groundfrost
09. Telemiittit / Telemites
10. Sykkiva / Throbbing
11. Prospekt Vernatskogo
12 Arktinen / Arctic
CD3
01. Viemarimaailma / Sewageworld
02. Kaytava / Corridor
03. Ilmenemismuoto / Appearanceform
04. Pakkasen Holvit / Arches of Frost
05. Selittamaton / Inexplicable
06. Ilma / Air
07. Koljan Uni / Sleep of Haddock
08. Linjat / Lines
CD4
01. Sateily / Radiation
This year PAN SONIC have already provided a sound installation for the
Berlin Biennale and performed at the Phillip Glass "Alter Ego" festival in
Milan.
They will play the UK for the first time in nearly three years in April at
The Triptych Festival (Edinburgh / Aberdeen / Glasgow) and in May at
"RE~TG" - a celebration of Industrial Music in the 21st Century" at Camber
Sands as special guests of the curators, Throbbing Gristle.
In November they travel to China to perform at Beijing's 2nd electronic
music festival and in early 2005 they will return to Japan and Australia, as
well as attempt their first tour of Africa.
They will also feature in David Toop's new book Haunted Weather and the
accompanying double CD (out April) and in American digital film maker Edward
Quist's much anticipated 1999 debut long-form DVD KUVAPUTKI (summer 2004)
www.mute.com
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From paran0id at luukku.com Sat Apr 17 05:58:19 2004
From: paran0id at luukku.com (Paran0iD)
Date: Sun Apr 18 23:06:43 2004
Subject: [hardcore] tehno delfini
Message-ID: <001601c42462$84274ea0$da43c551@soren0id>
Thought it'd be a good idea to post this one here.. everyone surely
remembers
the K7! X-Mix -series ;). Quoting the info-file in the archive:
X-Mix 2004 - "Ion Traxx": A homage to the legendary X-MIX VHS tape series.
The
demonstration consists of numerous visual effects and a mixtape comprising
of
five techno tracks. Both components are reverential nostalgically to the
original concept.
Works in win32-environment (Pentium3 and up recommended) and propably
requires a
DX8.1 capable display adapter (GF2/3/4 or Radeon). This version is slightly
buggy with GeForce-cards, but a fix/final version is under the works.
Download
from one of these mirrors:
http://breakpoint.gwendoline.at/PC%20Demo/mfxkwl_xmix_2004.rar
http://i2knet.de/bp04_releases/PC%20Demo/mfxkwl_xmix_2004.rar
ftp://ftp.snt.utwente.nl/pub/misc/demoscene/PC%20Demo/mfxkwl_xmix_2004.rar
The demo will be available soon through the mfx and kewlers -sites too;
these
are currently unavailable at the moment, but should be back online during
this
weekend.
http://www.kewlers.scene.org
http://www.mfx.scene.org
Comments/feedback welcome.
.Arto.
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From griffin76 at eml.cc Mon Apr 19 01:57:59 2004
From: griffin76 at eml.cc (Nenad)
Date: Mon Apr 19 02:11:12 2004
Subject: [hardcore] tehno delfini
In-Reply-To: <001601c42462$84274ea0$da43c551@soren0id>
References: <001601c42462$84274ea0$da43c551@soren0id>
Message-ID: <1082354279.13078.184674903@webmail.messagingengine.com>
On Sat, 17 Apr 2004 12:58:19 +0300, "Paran0iD"
said:
> Thought it'd be a good idea to post this one here.. everyone surely
> remembers
> the K7! X-Mix -series ;). Quoting the info-file in the archive:
>
>
> X-Mix 2004 - "Ion Traxx": A homage to the legendary X-MIX VHS tape
> series.
> The
> demonstration consists of numerous visual effects and a mixtape
> comprising
> of
> five techno tracks. Both components are reverential nostalgically to the
> original concept.
>
Inace Kalicanin je za novu godinu pustao X-mix u Hali sportova. Bas mi je
prijalo da se podsetim, mada mi je nekako bas bilo tuzno da nema nista
novije da nabavi/pusti, nego pusta stvari od pre 10 i vise godina.
Pozdrav, Laza.
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From subbot at eunet.yu Wed Apr 21 21:15:15 2004
From: subbot at eunet.yu (Boban)
Date: Wed Apr 21 21:31:58 2004
Subject: [hardcore] tehno delfini
References: <001601c42462$84274ea0$da43c551@soren0id>
<1082354279.13078.184674903@webmail.messagingengine.com>
Message-ID: <001201c42808$b832c180$2d01f0d5@p35d0bgo8cba>
koliko ja znam studio k7 je sa x-mixom zavrsio 1998...
ali je kalicko jednom prilikom u jedan od ondasnjih vj techna doveo jednog lika sa mcm-a, pa su pustali videe koje su radili mcm
video umetnici uz pomoc pc-eva, macova, thomsona, amiga...
to je sve bilo slicno x-mix-u, ali kvalitetno i originalno, dobar video na dobar techno...
recimo na svakoj "tranziciji" su ispisivali sa kakvim softverom i hardverom je radjena nastupajuca animacija...
a omiljene alatke ljudi sa mcm-a su bile naravno amiga, lightwave, imagine.
da iskoristim ovu priliku da pitam, koliko ima ovde ljudi koji vole softverski 3d rendering? (mislim i na one koji recimo vole cisto
da vide sliku, animaciju)?
nego, u infou onog demoa se pozdravljaju i nasi ljudi ;)
pozdrav
----- Original Message -----
>
> Inace Kalicanin je za novu godinu pustao X-mix u Hali sportova. Bas mi je
> prijalo da se podsetim, mada mi je nekako bas bilo tuzno da nema nista
> novije da nabavi/pusti, nego pusta stvari od pre 10 i vise godina.
>
>
> Pozdrav, Laza.
>
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From griffin76 at eml.cc Thu Apr 22 02:39:13 2004
From: griffin76 at eml.cc (Nenad)
Date: Thu Apr 22 02:47:55 2004
Subject: [hardcore] tehno delfini
In-Reply-To: <001201c42808$b832c180$2d01f0d5@p35d0bgo8cba>
References: <001601c42462$84274ea0$da43c551@soren0id>
<1082354279.13078.184674903@webmail.messagingengine.com>
<001201c42808$b832c180$2d01f0d5@p35d0bgo8cba>
Message-ID: <1082615953.9628.184897358@webmail.messagingengine.com>
On Thu, 22 Apr 2004 03:15:15 +0200, "Boban" said:
>
> koliko ja znam studio k7 je sa x-mixom zavrsio 1998...
>
Nisam znao da je toliko dugo trajalo, ali u Hali sportova je bas pustao
prastare stvari, ja se secam da sam ih gledao pocetkom devedesetih,
recimo vrteo je i State of the art demo (onaj sto su ga izvrteli svi
naradnjaci kao pozadinu na Palmi), kao da nema nista novije.
> da iskoristim ovu priliku da pitam, koliko ima ovde ljudi koji vole
> softverski 3d rendering? (mislim i na one koji recimo vole cisto
> da vide sliku, animaciju)?
Ja volim da vidim softverski rendering, cisto promene i nesavrsenosti
radi. Rendering na karticama mi je suvise slican.
Pozdrav, laza.
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From griffin76 at eml.cc Sun Apr 25 17:51:03 2004
From: griffin76 at eml.cc (Nenad)
Date: Sun Apr 25 17:57:42 2004
Subject: [hardcore] tehno
Message-ID: <1082929863.5668.185080474@webmail.messagingengine.com>
E kad smo vec kod muzike, jel ide neko na Kox Box za prvi maj? Svi kazu
da ce biti do jaja zurka posto je lokacija mnogo jaka (prirodni
amfiteatar napravljen od stena).
Pozdrav, Laza.
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From griffin76 at eml.cc Tue Apr 27 08:31:08 2004
From: griffin76 at eml.cc (Nenad)
Date: Tue Apr 27 08:41:20 2004
Subject: [hardcore] ima li koga?
Message-ID: <1083069068.4198.185189531@webmail.messagingengine.com>
Jel ima novoj listi jos uvek koga ko izlazi negde (osim naravno do
prodavnice i skole/posla)?
Pozdrav, Laza.
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From fraud at eunet.yu Tue Apr 27 14:59:06 2004
From: fraud at eunet.yu (Boris Petrovic)
Date: Wed Apr 28 09:05:10 2004
Subject: [hardcore] ima li koga?
References: <1083069068.4198.185189531@webmail.messagingengine.com>
Message-ID: <000a01c42d21$8651e060$ad01f0d5@t9e2n0>
izadjem ja ponekad da bacim djubre.
pozdrav,
FraudatoR
> Jel ima novoj listi jos uvek koga ko izlazi negde (osim naravno do
> prodavnice i skole/posla)?
>
>
> Pozdrav, Laza.
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From griffin76 at eml.cc Thu Apr 29 03:48:37 2004
From: griffin76 at eml.cc (Nenad)
Date: Thu Apr 29 03:55:29 2004
Subject: [hardcore] ima li koga?
In-Reply-To: <000a01c42d21$8651e060$ad01f0d5@t9e2n0>
References: <1083069068.4198.185189531@webmail.messagingengine.com>
<000a01c42d21$8651e060$ad01f0d5@t9e2n0>
Message-ID: <1083224917.29167.185326070@webmail.messagingengine.com>
On Tue, 27 Apr 2004 20:59:06 +0200, "Boris Petrovic"
said:
> izadjem ja ponekad da bacim djubre.
Nakupi se mamu mu jebem, ako ga se ne ratosiljas na vreme.
Pozdrav, Laza.
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From igor at drastic.net Thu Apr 29 05:40:05 2004
From: igor at drastic.net (Igor)
Date: Thu Apr 29 05:47:31 2004
Subject: [hardcore] ima li koga?
References: <1083069068.4198.185189531@webmail.messagingengine.com><000a01c42d21$8651e060$ad01f0d5@t9e2n0>
<1083224917.29167.185326070@webmail.messagingengine.com>
Message-ID: <000b01c42dcd$f4197070$0d00a8c0@dekadenzia>
p`da !
tako i meni...
dodje mi mama i kazhe "kako se ne sramish sine ?
soba ti puna djubra...."
pa kazhe da kod mene smrdi i taque stvari...
a cale mi je strava !
kazhe "shta to celi zhivot lupash na taj kompjutor,
pucash na vanzemaljce (on ono misli da josh uvek igram "phoenix")
i na neke padobrance (a to je "beach head")...
a ja nekad stvarno zamislim da su mi mama & tata "vanzemaljci" !!!
a za topic:
idem samo to mame & tate,
do banke,
u prodavnicu,
pa chak i na neku demo-scene-party...
mozhda izadjem i kad dodje ono verme za parenje pa mora...
imali neko sestru ?
crna kosa, glatka ?
to ja volim...
Igor
----- Original Message -----
From: "Nenad"
To: "hardcore lista"
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 9:48 AM
Subject: Re: [hardcore] ima li koga?
>
> On Tue, 27 Apr 2004 20:59:06 +0200, "Boris Petrovic"
> said:
> > izadjem ja ponekad da bacim djubre.
>
> Nakupi se mamu mu jebem, ako ga se ne ratosiljas na vreme.
>
>
> Pozdrav, Laza.
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From nknight at tesla.rcub.bg.ac.yu Thu Apr 29 20:18:43 2004
From: nknight at tesla.rcub.bg.ac.yu (night knight)
Date: Thu Apr 29 19:27:39 2004
Subject: [hardcore] scene awards
In-Reply-To: <000b01c42dcd$f4197070$0d00a8c0@dekadenzia>
Message-ID:
> a za topic:
> idem samo to mame & tate,
> do banke,
> u prodavnicu,
> pa chak i na neku demo-scene-party...
> mozhda izadjem i kad dodje ono verme za parenje pa mora...
> imali neko sestru ?
> crna kosa, glatka ?
> to ja volim...
> Igor
a ima$ li ti sestru Qronja?!
$ta mu ti dodje$ ovde... yebach!?! neki pastuX gastarbajterski?!
ako ba$ toliko zheli$ da se pari$ kao $to pi$e$, poslacu ti prijatelja crnca.
O keke O bele se zove i igra za Mladenovac :D xe xe Jedva cheka poziv iz
zapadne Evrope.. xe xe ;-)
BTW... Odradio sam ovo jo$ pre 20 dana, ali nikako da se nakanim da po$aljem
jelte.... Ko nije video ovu pro$logodi$nju produkciju neka pogleda..
Izvukao sam linkove na radove osim $to sam eto zaboravio na Project Genesis,
ali mrzi me da $tekam monitor na PC :)) Relais nece da mi radi na GF4 MX..
to moram da nosim u kom$iluk na bolju grafichku.. Aura for laura je PS2 demo
i kako nemam isti ni to nisam uspeo da pogledam.. Skinuo sam OBA PS2
emulatora ali naravno ni da prismrdi.. Mrzelo me da trazhim pa hajde da
pitam jel neko rezao produkciju za PS2 na obichne CDe i imate li guide za
to... Mala zanimljivost.. Yellow rose je portovan i za Win ali i za Amigu
tako da je ba$ bio merak pustiti oba introa u isto vreme :D
he international scene organisation (scene.org) is very proud to announce the official line up for the scene.org awards 2003. After many months of delibarations, the international jury awarded the following distinctions:
Breakthrough performance:
Project genesis by Conspiracy
Most original concept:
IX by Moppi productions
Best direction:
IX by Moppi productions
ftp://ftp.se.scene.org/pub/demos/scene.org/parties/2003/assembly03/demo/ix_by_moppi_productions_1.zip
Best graphics:
Relais by Kolor
ftp://ftp.se.scene.org/pub/demos/scene.org/demos/groups/kolor/relais_by_kolor.zip
Best soundtrack:
A significant deformation near the cranium by Kewlers
ftp://ftp.se.scene.org/pub/demos/scene.org/parties/2003/assembly03/demo/a_significant_deformation_near_the_cranium_by_kewlers.zip
Best effects:
Aura for laura by Soopadoopa
http://www.soopadoopa.dk/demos/aura.zip
Best 4k intro:
Yellow rose of Texas by Fit + Bandwagon
http://ftp.kameli.net/pub/fit/yellow_rose
Best intro:
Fr030 candytron by Farbrausch
http://www.theproduct.de/fr-030_candytron_final.zip
Best demo:
IX by Moppi production
The public choice award goes to:
FR-025 The Popular Demo by Farbrausch
From milan_g at eunet.yu Mon Apr 26 11:20:22 2004
From: milan_g at eunet.yu (Milan Golubovic)
Date: Thu Jun 10 07:44:27 2004
Subject: [hardcore] StarMonkey
Message-ID: <1571138464.20040426144139@eunet.yu>
Zdravo,
Neko je ovde navodio neke pucachke igrice za PC pre mesec-dva i ja probao i
bednjikavo mi deluju.
E, potrazite sad na net-u StarMonkey pucachinu da vidite sta je igrica!
Radi solidno i na P2@400 sa normalnom grafickom (probano na G450 sa 16MB ram) a
moglo bi teoretski i na cak nesto slabijoj masini.
Bas me interesuju utisci...
--
Pozdrav,
Milan mailto:milan_g@eunet.yu
From dominator at kosmoplovci.net Mon Apr 26 18:30:07 2004
From: dominator at kosmoplovci.net (dominator///kosmoplovci)
Date: Thu Jun 10 07:44:28 2004
Subject: [hardcore] Fwd: [internodium] Robotika
Message-ID: <6.0.3.0.2.20040423120925.032b27c8@pop3.yubc.net>
>From: "Srdjan Belic"
>To:
>Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 11:49:08 +0200
>
>Drugo nacionalno prvenstvo medjunarodnog takmicenja u robotici
>
>GDE: U Novom Sadu, zgrada Radio Novog Sada, Studio M
>
>KADA: 8. maja u 11,00 casova - koktel, 12,00 casova - otvaranje takmicenja
>
>STA: U pitanju je medjunarodno takmicenje robota. Ne radi se o
>"termintorima", niti necem slicnom, ali su prave masine u pitanju. Finale
>ovog takmicenja je u Francuskoj, a na njemu ucestvuju najbolje ekipe sa
>nacionalnog nivoa. Ovo je druga godina da se kod nas organizuje nacionalno
>takmicenje. Ovog puta bice izmedju 11 i 15 ekipa.
>
>KAKO TO SVE IZGLEDA: Na stolu su dva robota (u proseku, velicine kutije za
>cipele). Posto ih ukljuce, clanovi ekipa ne smeju da se priblize vise stolu.
>Prosle godine, zadatak je bio prevrnuti sto vise valjaka na svoju stranu.
>Tacnije, na stolu je stajao odredjen broj predmeta oblika tocka. Sa jedne
>strane, taj tocak bio je obojen crvenom, a sa druge zelenom bojom.
>Neposredno pred takmicenje odredi se koji robot ce imati zadatak da prevrce
>tockice na zelenu, odnosno na crvenu stranu. Posle, recimo 2 minuta, roboti
>se iskljucuju i utvrdjuje se broj tockica prevrnutih na crvenu, odnosno
>zelenu stranu i utvrdjuje se pobednik. OVE GODINE, pravila ce biti slicna
>ragbi utakmici. Cilj je sa sto vise loptica prebaciti odredjenu precku.
>Ostatak pravila bi trebalo da je isti. U "arenu" ulaze samo oni roboti koji
>su prethodno polozili odredjene testove, tako da se ne desava cesto borba
>izmedju favorita i autsajdera.
>
>Sajt medjunarodnog takmicenja je www.eurobot.org. Domaci sajt, na zalost, za
>sada ne postoji.
>
>Sudije na takmicenju dolaze iz Francuske. Ulaz je slobodan!
>
>Mnogo pozdrava
>Srdjan Belic
>http://www.racunari.tk
>
>
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From dominator at kosmoplovci.net Mon Apr 26 18:30:10 2004
From: dominator at kosmoplovci.net (dominator///kosmoplovci)
Date: Thu Jun 10 07:44:28 2004
Subject: [hardcore] softwar vs hardwar
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At 03:15 4/22/2004, you wrote:
> koliko ja znam studio k7 je sa x-mixom zavrsio 1998...
>ali je kalicko jednom prilikom u jedan od ondasnjih vj techna doveo jednog lika sa mcm-a, pa su pustali videe koje su radili mcm
>video umetnici uz pomoc pc-eva, macova, thomsona, amiga...
>to je sve bilo slicno x-mix-u, ali kvalitetno i originalno, dobar video na dobar techno...
>recimo na svakoj "tranziciji" su ispisivali sa kakvim softverom i hardverom je radjena nastupajuca animacija...
>a omiljene alatke ljudi sa mcm-a su bile naravno amiga, lightwave, imagine.
secam se toga, bilo je tu zanimljivih detalja. XMIX-a je napravljeno koliko je meni poznato barem 4 a 3LUX mozda i vise (FYI: 3LUX je takodje produkcija K7 studija, XMIX je bio vise techno/elektro/trance orijentisan, 3LUX ambijent/experiment). ne znam sta kalicanin poseduje, ali je zalosno sto i danas on uspeva da prodaje stvari koje je pokrao jos pre 10 godina i zamajava time i danasnje nagutane trensere...
>da iskoristim ovu priliku da pitam, koliko ima ovde ljudi koji vole softverski 3d rendering? (mislim i na one koji recimo vole cisto
>da vide sliku, animaciju)?
volim isto koliko i hardverski, mozda i malo vise iz razumevanja kolicine rada koja je ulozena, ali rendering kao takav posmatram ipak kao sekundarnu stvar. pogledajte na primer amiga demoe ephidrene ili tbl-a iz ove i prosle godine, iako su u 320x200 sa softverskim renderingom, garantujem da cete u njima uzivati podjednako dobro bas kao i da su u 1024x768 sa gl/d3d...
po meni, mnogo vaznije od vrste renderinga je rezultat koji se postize vizuelnim efektom u kombinaciji sa idejom. kompaktnost produkcije ispred nagomilanih 'originalnih efekata'... realno mi ne smeta ni 160x100 u 2x2 kad demo valja. uzecu za primer nerve axis-ov relic iz 1998 koji i danas poprilicno proziva, i to ne samo amiga scenu vec scenu uopste.
postujem stare demoe koji su se bazirali na kolicini nevezanih efekata i volim da ih pogledam i danas, ali je ta faza odavno prevazidjena i mora se ici dalje. tu i tamo zanimljivo je i neko prizivanje na oldskool, ali vecina toga je neko 'stara dobra vremena' patetisanje pa nije ni lako naici na nesto interesantno. u ovoj kategoriji mozda nije lose pogledati TPM-ov pixeltropia intro, izdato u martu na ifparty04.
>nego, u infou onog demoa se pozdravljaju i nasi ljudi ;)
pitam se koji ;))
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From dominator at kosmoplovci.net Mon Apr 26 19:00:12 2004
From: dominator at kosmoplovci.net (dominator///kosmoplovci)
Date: Thu Jun 10 07:44:28 2004
Subject: [hardcore] tehno
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At 11:51 PM 4/25/2004, you wrote:
>E kad smo vec kod muzike, jel ide neko na Kox Box za prvi maj? Svi kazu
>da ce biti do jaja zurka posto je lokacija mnogo jaka (prirodni
>amfiteatar napravljen od stena).
treba se dobro spremiti... ne veruj nikome -> www.eztest.com
>> www.kosmoplovci.net
From dominator at kosmoplovci.net Thu Apr 29 11:33:01 2004
From: dominator at kosmoplovci.net (dominator///kosmoplovci)
Date: Thu Jun 10 07:44:29 2004
Subject: [hardcore] ima li koga?
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At 02:31 PM 4/27/2004, you wrote:
>Jel ima novoj listi jos uvek koga ko izlazi negde (osim naravno do
>prodavnice i skole/posla)?
ima.
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