From lyger at attrition.org Fri Apr 11 04:48:43 2008 From: lyger at attrition.org (lyger) Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 04:48:43 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [attrition] [FIN] This is the end... Message-ID: http://attrition.org/news/content/end.html This is the end... April 11, 2008 Lyger Since July 5 2005, Attrition.org has tracked events involving large-scale thefts and loss of personally identifying information (PII). In the months and years since then, we, as well as dozens of volunteers, enthusiasts, and well-wishers have spent literally thousands of hours gathering data, discussing matters related to data breaches, creating web pages and databases, and promoting the idea of security and privacy for personal information. We feel that our combined efforts have been valuable to the security and privacy communities alike, and we hope that efforts like ours will continue to promote awareness, and maybe, some day in the future, actually make a difference. With that said, we're done. Much like Attrition.org's past defacement mirror, the time has come for us to say "no mas". In the past few weeks, it has come to our attention that too many people are more concerned with making a profit off of our work without any offer of acknowledgement or compensation. For those who aren't familiar with Attrition, we're a non-profit hobby site that takes on "projects" as we see fit, when we want to, and when we have time. For those who *are* familiar with Attrition, you probably know that we don't take kindly to being dealt with unfairly. Commercial entities, including "identity-theft prevention" upstarts and book authors, will gladly contact us, ask for information and advice, and then not even offer us the equivalent of a reach-around when selling their materials. We don't pimp our resources to others; they come to us. Unfortunately, more often than not, they won't even send us a "thank you". We've mentioned it in the past, but we're not going to mention it in the future. This is the last mention. [...] From lyger at attrition.org Sat Apr 12 03:40:26 2008 From: lyger at attrition.org (lyger) Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 03:40:26 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [attrition] dataloss: A new beginning Message-ID: http://attrition.org/news/content/nottheend.html First off, we would like to thank everyone who emailed us messages of support about our decision to discontinue our Data Loss resources. So far, we have received over 50 emails expressing gratitude, concern, and interest in helping continue the project. To be perfectly honest, the overwhelming offers of support have been, well, touching. We never intended for our resources to be so widely held in regard and respected by security and privacy professionals world-wide, and we are quite thankful for your messages. However, some of the messages we received were somewhat saddening, as if there was a death in the family. We didn't post our notice to cause grief, but let us all take a step back and look at this objectively. If you have something you like and, in some cases, rely upon every single day, why wait until it's gone to say "thanks" or offer support? Isn't that the classic case of "too little, too late?" Why wait until the corpse is in the coffin before you start crying? Why not show appreciation for the living... not the (apparently) dead? Every single one of you, right now, go pick up your phones, call your mom and/or your dad, and just say "thanks." Seriously. If this project means that much to you, the least you can do for us, yourself, and your 'rents is to do that one small thing. It's called "perspective". [...] From lyger at attrition.org Wed Apr 16 01:17:04 2008 From: lyger at attrition.org (lyger) Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2008 01:17:04 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [attrition] postal: spam is our favorite color Message-ID: http://attrition.org/postal/p0017.html mating calls on a stiiiick level 84 smartass he's on a mission from god... ... and apparently she's not don't hack me bro should have stuck with ebay pimp slap still working the corner steve irwin is still dead too