From: Emyrharris@aol.com
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 09:43:52 EST
Subject: (no subject)
To: root@attrition.org

hey just read about you in tom clancy book PAYBACK if its true what it 
says sounds like your secrets out  but you probablly already know this, 
anyway good luck



From: security curmudgeon (jericho@attrition.org)
To: Emyrharris@aol.com
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 17:26:06 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: (no subject)


: hey just read about you in tom clancy book PAYBACK if its true what it
: says sounds like your secrets out but you probablly already know this,
: anyway good luck

Tom Clancy didn't write a book called 'Payback'.



From: security curmudgeon (jericho@attrition.org)
To: Emyrharris@aol.com
Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 23:12:38 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: (no subject)

: sorry my bad. Andy mcnabb, i read too many books

any chance you can type up the paragraph that mentions it?



From: Emyrharris@aol.com
To: jericho@attrition.org
Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 10:33:18 EST
Subject: Re: (no subject)

the book is called payback by andy mcnabb and robert pigmy read for
yourself



Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 17:51:56 -0500 (EST)
From: security curmudgeon (jericho@attrition.org)
To: lyger (lyger@attrition.org)
Subject: Re: (no subject) (fwd)

dont tell me you bought a copy and will get it in 8 months..

On Fri, 17 Feb 2006, lyger wrote:

: well, this could be the most useless 13 british pounds i ever spent...



From: security curmudgeon (jericho@attrition.org)
To: Emyrharris@aol.com
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 09:23:05 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: (no subject)

: i bought it in asda dont know when it was out but i assure you i read it

maybe so but you have given two author names, one completely wrong, the
other fairly close. ends up the books IS out in the UK but not released
in the US yet. i'm not exactly eager to 'go read it myself' when I would
have to track down a copy from the UK.



From: Emyrharris@aol.com
To: jericho@attrition.org
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 09:29:22 EST
Subject: Re: (no subject)

shame, good read. what do you do



From: security curmudgeon (jericho@attrition.org)
To: Emyrharris@aol.com
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 09:29:28 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: (no subject)

: shame, good read. what do you do

given all that has happened, i'm still wondering if it really said
'attrition.org' =)



From: Emyrharris@aol.com
To: jericho@attrition.org
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 09:32:58 EST
Subject: Re: (no subject)

it did, how else would i know and whats happened  then



From: security curmudgeon (jericho@attrition.org)
To: Emyrharris@aol.com
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 09:31:56 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: (no subject)

: it did, how else would i know and whats happened then

you thought Clancy wrote it to start

maybe it really said ascension.org or attrition.com


From: Emyrharris@aol.com
To: jericho@attrition.org
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 09:35:56 EST
Subject: Re: (no subject)

what is your site for youre awfully paranoid 



From: security curmudgeon (jericho@attrition.org)
To: Emyrharris@aol.com
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 09:46:19 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: (no subject)

: what is your site for youre awfully paranoid

how is me questioning a book that i haven't seen, that isn't released in
the US, written by someone you couldn't tell me (twice), talking about a
site that may or may not be attrition.org, paranoid?

maybe you should look up the word 'paranoid' vs 'skeptical'


From: Emyrharris@aol.com
To: jericho@attrition.org
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 09:52:26 EST
Subject: Re: (no subject)

are you for real and i got the authors mixed up once andy mcnabb is an sas
soldier helping rob pigmy write the book it said you were a hacker site is that
correct tried to give you a heads up just incase, ill'e know better next time


From: Emyrharris@aol.com
To: jericho@attrition.org
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 09:54:24 EST
Subject: Re: (no subject)

skeptical is fair



From: security curmudgeon (jericho@attrition.org)
To: lyger (lyger@attrition.org)
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 13:22:15 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: (no subject)

i did, he said "read it yourself" (this was days ago)

On Mon, 20 Feb 2006, lyger wrote:

: heh, you should ask for a direct quote and page number.  that way, i don't
: have to read the whole fuckin' book when it gets here... ;)



From: lyger (lyger@attrition.org)
To: Emyrharris@aol.com
Cc: security curmudgeon (jericho@attrition.org)
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 17:30:00 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: (no subject)


Greetings. :)

Actually, I'm pretty interested in the book and what you found.  After 
doing a little research, the primary author's last name is spelled "McNab" 
(easy enough mistake to make) and the secondary author's name is Robert 
Rigby, not Pigmy.  The book is available in the UK, but not easily 
available in the U.S., where you and I both probably live.  Apologies if 
that's a wrong assumption..

I really don't like to impose, but since you emailed attrition.org to give
us a "heads up" (which you did!), would you please consider taking a few
moments of your time to type out what was printed and maybe include a page
number for reference?  Not trying to waste your time, but I for one do 
find this to be very interesting and any assistance you can provide 
would be great!

Best,

Lyger




From: Emyrharris@aol.com
To: lyger@attrition.org
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 09:02:35 EST
Subject: Re: (no subject)

thank you for you message very polite and unskeptical unlike your collegue
i will do this for you when i get chance either later or  tomorrow



From: Emyrharris@aol.com
To: lyger@attrition.org
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 09:33:24 EST
Subject: Re: (no subject)

elena was good at hacking but compared to the experts who dwelt deep down
in the deep web she was still a novice, a script kiddi. she hit 
attrition.org, the site where hackers recieve credits for their exploits 
and where black star had first popped up on her screen

hope this is satisfactory



From: lyger (lyger@attrition.org)
To: Emyrharris@aol.com
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 23:25:42 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: (no subject)

Perfectly satisfactory.  Thank you, and please stand by for my next email.

Lyger



From: security curmudgeon (jericho@attrition.org)
To: Emyrharris@aol.com
Cc: lyger (lyger@attrition.org)
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 14:36:22 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: (no subject) (fwd)

: thank you for you message very polite and unskeptical unlike your 
: collegue i
: will do this for you when i get chance either later or  tomorrow

You still think I am skeptical after our mail? Maybe so, but you seem to
be a dimwit. Early on in our mail exchange I specifically asked if you
could type in the part that mentioned our domain. You replied something to
the effect of "read it yourself" which lead into the whole figuring out
who the authors really were.

You said it was Clancy, it wasn't. You said mcnabb, it was McNab. You said
Pigmy, it was Rigby. After all that, I find out the book isn't available
in the US yet, and you still call me 'paranoid' and skeptical'? Let me
quote one of my mails for you:

  From: security curmudgeon (jericho@attrition.org)
  To: Emyrharris@aol.com
  Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 23:12:38 -0500 (EST)
  Subject: Re: (no subject)

  : sorry my bad. Andy mcnabb, i read too many books

  any chance you can type up the paragraph that mentions it?


So, why exactly did you ignore my fairly polite request and then proceed
to call me paranoid/skeptical to me and others?

Moron.



From: Emyrharris@aol.com
To: jericho@attrition.org
Resent-To: lyger (lyger@attrition.org)
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 08:35:30 EST
Subject: Re: (no subject) (fwd)

polite and you called me a moron to be honest couldnt have cared less 
about contacting you wish i hadnt now



From: security curmudgeon (jericho@attrition.org)
To: Emyrharris@aol.com
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 09:40:45 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: (no subject) (fwd)

: polite and you called me a moron to be honest couldnt have cared less
: about contacting you wish i hadnt now

I know this whole 'chronology' thing escapes you, but think hard. You
called me names first, even though I had a legitimate reason to ask you
those questions. Someone else asked you the same thing, you respond
completely different to them. Seek help.



From: Emyrharris@aol.com
To: jericho@attrition.org
Resent-To: lyger (lyger@attrition.org)
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 09:44:25 EST
Subject: Re: (no subject) (fwd)

no need for such attitude though anyway nice meeting  you



From: security curmudgeon (jericho@attrition.org)
To: Emyrharris@aol.com
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 09:43:08 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: (no subject) (fwd)


: no need for such attitude though anyway nice meeting you

that's my point. i gave you 0 attitude until you started insulting me
after you made mistake after mistake and made the entire mail thread a
headache.



From: Emyrharris@aol.com
To: jericho@attrition.org
Resent-To: lyger (lyger@attrition.org)
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 09:47:07 EST
Subject: Re: (no subject) (fwd)

sorry bout that but it was not my concern



From: security curmudgeon (jericho@attrition.org)
To: Emyrharris@aol.com
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 09:57:46 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: (no subject) (fwd)

: sorry bout that but it was not my concern

moron.

(sorry, your feelings are not my concern)



From: Emyrharris@aol.com
To: jericho@attrition.org
Resent-To: lyger (lyger@attrition.org)
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 10:00:40 EST
Subject: Re: (no subject) (fwd)

stop emailing me then



From: security curmudgeon (jericho@attrition.org)
To: Emyrharris@aol.com
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 10:01:05 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: (no subject) (fwd)

: stop emailing me then

you stop emailing me then!


From: lyger (lyger@attrition.org)
To: Emyrharris@aol.com
Cc: security curmudgeon (jericho@attrition.org)
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 10:02:48 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: (no subject) (fwd)

On Thu, 23 Feb 2006, security curmudgeon wrote:

": " : stop emailing me then
": " 
": " you stop emailing me then!

yeah! what he said!



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