From: Emyrharris@aol.com Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 09:43:52 EST Subject: (no subject) To: root@attrition.org hey just read about you in tom clancy book PAYBACK if its true what it says sounds like your secrets out but you probablly already know this, anyway good luck
From: security curmudgeon (jericho@attrition.org) To: Emyrharris@aol.com Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 17:26:06 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: (no subject) : hey just read about you in tom clancy book PAYBACK if its true what it : says sounds like your secrets out but you probablly already know this, : anyway good luck Tom Clancy didn't write a book called 'Payback'.
From: security curmudgeon (jericho@attrition.org) To: Emyrharris@aol.com Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 23:12:38 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: (no subject) : sorry my bad. Andy mcnabb, i read too many books any chance you can type up the paragraph that mentions it?
From: Emyrharris@aol.com To: jericho@attrition.org Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 10:33:18 EST Subject: Re: (no subject) the book is called payback by andy mcnabb and robert pigmy read for yourself
Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 17:51:56 -0500 (EST) From: security curmudgeon (jericho@attrition.org) To: lyger (lyger@attrition.org) Subject: Re: (no subject) (fwd) dont tell me you bought a copy and will get it in 8 months.. On Fri, 17 Feb 2006, lyger wrote: : well, this could be the most useless 13 british pounds i ever spent...
From: security curmudgeon (jericho@attrition.org) To: Emyrharris@aol.com Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 09:23:05 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: (no subject) : i bought it in asda dont know when it was out but i assure you i read it maybe so but you have given two author names, one completely wrong, the other fairly close. ends up the books IS out in the UK but not released in the US yet. i'm not exactly eager to 'go read it myself' when I would have to track down a copy from the UK.
From: Emyrharris@aol.com To: jericho@attrition.org Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 09:29:22 EST Subject: Re: (no subject) shame, good read. what do you do
From: security curmudgeon (jericho@attrition.org) To: Emyrharris@aol.com Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 09:29:28 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: (no subject) : shame, good read. what do you do given all that has happened, i'm still wondering if it really said 'attrition.org' =)
From: Emyrharris@aol.com To: jericho@attrition.org Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 09:32:58 EST Subject: Re: (no subject) it did, how else would i know and whats happened then
From: security curmudgeon (jericho@attrition.org) To: Emyrharris@aol.com Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 09:31:56 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: (no subject) : it did, how else would i know and whats happened then you thought Clancy wrote it to start maybe it really said ascension.org or attrition.com
From: Emyrharris@aol.com To: jericho@attrition.org Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 09:35:56 EST Subject: Re: (no subject) what is your site for youre awfully paranoid
From: security curmudgeon (jericho@attrition.org) To: Emyrharris@aol.com Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 09:46:19 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: (no subject) : what is your site for youre awfully paranoid how is me questioning a book that i haven't seen, that isn't released in the US, written by someone you couldn't tell me (twice), talking about a site that may or may not be attrition.org, paranoid? maybe you should look up the word 'paranoid' vs 'skeptical'
From: Emyrharris@aol.com To: jericho@attrition.org Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 09:52:26 EST Subject: Re: (no subject) are you for real and i got the authors mixed up once andy mcnabb is an sas soldier helping rob pigmy write the book it said you were a hacker site is that correct tried to give you a heads up just incase, ill'e know better next time
From: Emyrharris@aol.com To: jericho@attrition.org Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 09:54:24 EST Subject: Re: (no subject) skeptical is fair
From: security curmudgeon (jericho@attrition.org) To: lyger (lyger@attrition.org) Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 13:22:15 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: (no subject) i did, he said "read it yourself" (this was days ago) On Mon, 20 Feb 2006, lyger wrote: : heh, you should ask for a direct quote and page number. that way, i don't : have to read the whole fuckin' book when it gets here... ;)
From: lyger (lyger@attrition.org) To: Emyrharris@aol.com Cc: security curmudgeon (jericho@attrition.org) Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 17:30:00 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: (no subject) Greetings. :) Actually, I'm pretty interested in the book and what you found. After doing a little research, the primary author's last name is spelled "McNab" (easy enough mistake to make) and the secondary author's name is Robert Rigby, not Pigmy. The book is available in the UK, but not easily available in the U.S., where you and I both probably live. Apologies if that's a wrong assumption.. I really don't like to impose, but since you emailed attrition.org to give us a "heads up" (which you did!), would you please consider taking a few moments of your time to type out what was printed and maybe include a page number for reference? Not trying to waste your time, but I for one do find this to be very interesting and any assistance you can provide would be great! Best, Lyger
From: Emyrharris@aol.com To: lyger@attrition.org Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 09:02:35 EST Subject: Re: (no subject) thank you for you message very polite and unskeptical unlike your collegue i will do this for you when i get chance either later or tomorrow
From: Emyrharris@aol.com To: lyger@attrition.org Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 09:33:24 EST Subject: Re: (no subject) elena was good at hacking but compared to the experts who dwelt deep down in the deep web she was still a novice, a script kiddi. she hit attrition.org, the site where hackers recieve credits for their exploits and where black star had first popped up on her screen hope this is satisfactory
From: lyger (lyger@attrition.org) To: Emyrharris@aol.com Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 23:25:42 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: (no subject) Perfectly satisfactory. Thank you, and please stand by for my next email. Lyger
From: security curmudgeon (jericho@attrition.org) To: Emyrharris@aol.com Cc: lyger (lyger@attrition.org) Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 14:36:22 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: (no subject) (fwd) : thank you for you message very polite and unskeptical unlike your : collegue i : will do this for you when i get chance either later or tomorrow You still think I am skeptical after our mail? Maybe so, but you seem to be a dimwit. Early on in our mail exchange I specifically asked if you could type in the part that mentioned our domain. You replied something to the effect of "read it yourself" which lead into the whole figuring out who the authors really were. You said it was Clancy, it wasn't. You said mcnabb, it was McNab. You said Pigmy, it was Rigby. After all that, I find out the book isn't available in the US yet, and you still call me 'paranoid' and skeptical'? Let me quote one of my mails for you: From: security curmudgeon (jericho@attrition.org) To: Emyrharris@aol.com Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 23:12:38 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: (no subject) : sorry my bad. Andy mcnabb, i read too many books any chance you can type up the paragraph that mentions it? So, why exactly did you ignore my fairly polite request and then proceed to call me paranoid/skeptical to me and others? Moron.
From: Emyrharris@aol.com To: jericho@attrition.org Resent-To: lyger (lyger@attrition.org) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 08:35:30 EST Subject: Re: (no subject) (fwd) polite and you called me a moron to be honest couldnt have cared less about contacting you wish i hadnt now
From: security curmudgeon (jericho@attrition.org) To: Emyrharris@aol.com Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 09:40:45 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: (no subject) (fwd) : polite and you called me a moron to be honest couldnt have cared less : about contacting you wish i hadnt now I know this whole 'chronology' thing escapes you, but think hard. You called me names first, even though I had a legitimate reason to ask you those questions. Someone else asked you the same thing, you respond completely different to them. Seek help.
From: Emyrharris@aol.com To: jericho@attrition.org Resent-To: lyger (lyger@attrition.org) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 09:44:25 EST Subject: Re: (no subject) (fwd) no need for such attitude though anyway nice meeting you
From: security curmudgeon (jericho@attrition.org) To: Emyrharris@aol.com Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 09:43:08 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: (no subject) (fwd) : no need for such attitude though anyway nice meeting you that's my point. i gave you 0 attitude until you started insulting me after you made mistake after mistake and made the entire mail thread a headache.
From: Emyrharris@aol.com To: jericho@attrition.org Resent-To: lyger (lyger@attrition.org) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 09:47:07 EST Subject: Re: (no subject) (fwd) sorry bout that but it was not my concern
From: security curmudgeon (jericho@attrition.org) To: Emyrharris@aol.com Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 09:57:46 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: (no subject) (fwd) : sorry bout that but it was not my concern moron. (sorry, your feelings are not my concern)
From: Emyrharris@aol.com To: jericho@attrition.org Resent-To: lyger (lyger@attrition.org) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 10:00:40 EST Subject: Re: (no subject) (fwd) stop emailing me then
From: security curmudgeon (jericho@attrition.org) To: Emyrharris@aol.com Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 10:01:05 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: (no subject) (fwd) : stop emailing me then you stop emailing me then!
From: lyger (lyger@attrition.org) To: Emyrharris@aol.com Cc: security curmudgeon (jericho@attrition.org) Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 10:02:48 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: (no subject) (fwd) On Thu, 23 Feb 2006, security curmudgeon wrote: ": " : stop emailing me then ": " ": " you stop emailing me then! yeah! what he said!