From jericho@dimensional.com Fri Sep 18 08:18:31 1998 From: mea culpaTo: MSNBC Feedback , NYT Feedback , Wired Feedback Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 08:16:36 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Poor Journalism This is in regards to articles each of your companies released regarding the NY Times web site hack. Below I quote one piece of each story to point out that at least two of you have been lied to. Considering these pieces didn't come out at the same second, it seems that you could have at least checked other news sources and avoided this embarassment. What does Carolyn Meinel say about HFG? "never heven heard of HFG before 7 August" - Wired "has been going on for about two years" - MSNBC "have been wreaking havoc for more than a year" - Washington Post Wired All the News That's Fit to Hack by Arik Hesseldahl 4:00am 14.Sep.98.PDT She said she had never even heard of HFG before 7 August, when the group allegedly hacked Route 66, a New Mexico ISP where Meinel holds an account. Whoever hacked the ISP also downloaded a file containing 1,800 credit card numbers, which got the attention of the FBI, Meinel said. MSNBC N.Y. Times site hacked By Mark Stevenson The group's animosity toward Meinel "has been going on for about two years," said Meinel, an industrial engineer and writer whose article "How Hackers Break In ... and How They Are Caught" is published in the October issue of Scientific American. Two years ago, Meinel said, the group hacked into the computers of the New Mexico ISP Rt66.COM, which is the ISP she uses. She said she detected the hack and alerted the ISP, which was able to shut out the hackers before they were able to post their hacked page. Washington Post N.Y. Times Web Site Invaded By Leslie Walker Monday, September 14, 1998; Page B11 The corrupted Web page taunted Carolyn P. Meinel, author of the book "The Happy Hacker," which promotes "good-guy" hacking rather the Internet vandalism displayed in the attack. Meinel, who has no association with the Times, said hackers also have been wreaking havoc for more than a year at her Internet service provider. [Thanks to Modify (modify@sekurity.org) for pointers to this material.]