[Defiant (defiant@cyberdefiant.demon.co.uk) points out more of Carolyn's hypocrisy.. So in one instance she knows of Uberhackers that break into systems so stealthily, they can't get caught. Yet weeks after that, she says hackers are evil, and that breaking into systems is not hacking.] Guide to (mostly) Harmless Hacking Vol. 5 Programmers' Series No. 4: How to Program in C, part 2 "The only Uberhackers I know of are so talented, and also so careful to do no harm, that only another Uberhacker would ever know one had broken into a computer. But if you are reading this to find out how to break into computers, you probably aren't good enough to keep from getting caught." Guide to (mostly) Harmless Hacking Vol. 6 Real Hackers "There is another group of people who loudly call themselves hackers, but aren't. These are people (mainly adolescent males) who get a kick out of breaking into computers and phreaking the phone system. Real hackers call these people `crackers' and want nothing to do with them. Real hackers mostly think crackers are lazy, irresponsible, and not very bright, and object that being able to break security doesn't make you a hacker any more than being able to hotwire cars makes you an automotive engineer. Unfortunately, many journalists and writers have been fooled into using the word `hacker' to describe crackers; this irritates real hackers no end.