Going Postal

From: /dev/null (null@attrition.org)
To: Host Control (hostcontrol@xxxx.com)
Cc: hacked@attrition.org
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 11:02:43 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: Re: Hacked Site

Hmmm, probably would've been a good idea if you'd actually mailed
hacked@attrition.org, rather than mailing me directly, considering I'd
already gone to bed.  Sucks to be you.

However, while I'm sending this, let me point out a few things.  First
off, I fail to see how it is in any way our problem if you can't keep a
server owned for more than the few minutes it takes to get mirrored.  We
don't run this archive for your glory -- if you want a site mirrored, it
has to actually be defaced when one of us looks at it.

Second off, by -no- stretch of the imagination do you have the right to
send us something snotty like "You need connect to internet more times".
Until you start signing our paychecks and sending us money for the service
we provide to the hacking community, we do -not- work for you and you have
no right to boss us around.  We all have lives, unlike certain
mouth-breathing script kiddies I could name, and those lives occasionally
take us away from the computer.  We are online as much as we can be and we
do our fucking best to provide a good resource on our own time.  Until you
start paying us for it, let me cordially invite you to can the fucking

Thirdly, due to my numerous attempts to verify the defacement, my IP
address appears in their logs several times before, during, and after the
hack.  Not only that, but my IP address appears viewing pages such as
care.tcpc.gov.tw/XX and care.tcpc.gov.tw/Main.asp, which are not part of
the regular site.  Due to this, I am now potentially implicated in this
defacement.  I don't appreciate that.  

That much said, the site's been mirrored.  Have a nice day.


On Tue, 17 Oct 2000, Host Control wrote:

: Right!
: You need connect to internet more times
: The  Governament Pages is restructured in few minutes
: you know that
: If You are Connect
: Right now
: you will seen
: http://care.tcpc.gov.tw 
: http://care.tcpc.gov.tw/XX
: Defaced!
: in 30 minutes later,,you will not seen
: Thank You
: ______________________________________________________