From: security curmudgeon (jericho[at]
To: Steve Chambers (
Cc: Bastards (staff[at], hannah[at]
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 16:50:17 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: RE: root shell hackers part 2

Shut up you ignorant toad.

1. You mail my upstream before contacting us. I received Hannah's POLITE
email asking me to deal with this situation before your HOSTILE mail.

2. You mail me again, before the end of business. In case it hadn't
crossed your mind, not everyone works 9 - 5 hours. I read both of your
rude messages at about the same time.

3. Because of your unprofessional and hostile mail, it is tempting to
leave the material up just to piss you off. You are about the 30th person
to threaten to sue us over this. The previous 29 couldn't get a court
order, and I doubt you could too.

4. You are not contacting me from the domain in question, nor the
registered NIC contacts. For all I know you are some net kook that likes
harassing sites for fun.

5. You are not contacting the appropriate address. Like our mail stated,
contact staff[at] .. or if you took the time to actually read
our web page (*gasp*), you would have found other more appropriate

6. You could have at least thanked us for notifying you of this incident. 

I have removed 'backup.html' from our server (as well as other pages you
would have moaned about had you actually looked). This matter is resolved.
Do not mail us again regarding this issue or we will consider it continued
harassment and proceed with criminal charges.

In the future, make the mail more polite, and more importantly, mail from
a legitimate address affiliated with the domain. Anything else is just
lame mail from another net kook.

Brian Martin 
Attrition Staff

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