From: lyger <lyger-attrition.org>
To: Omoria <omorye007@yahoo.com>
Bcc: security curmudgeon <jericho-attrition.org>
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2012 06:18:06 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: Re: Hacking Services?


Why don't you just contact the target, tell them that you're SEO
marketers, and ask them for the database in return for a targeted email
marketing campaign?  Hell, they might even pay you to do it.

No, seriously, it looks like you're from Nigeria and all, so shouldn't you
be 419'ing it anyway?

From: lyger <lyger-attrition.org>
To: Omoria <omorye007@yahoo.com>
Bcc: security curmudgeon <jericho-attrition.org>
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2012 07:48:32 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: Re: Hacking Services?


Of course I checked your IP.  It's called doing research, which is
something a lot of people won't do before jumping into a situation with
both feet and no parachute, so to speak.

To be clear, your intent *is* fraudulent, because it involves the
unauthorized use of computer resources to basically steal intellectual
property from a third party.  Not sure how that works in Nigeria, but here
it's called a "felony" and quite a few people spend quite a few years in
prison for being stupid.

My guess is that your penny stock sites that you list below, in
conjunction with your "targeted advertising" campaign involves some type
of stock price manipulation or sale of services that imply some form of
guarantee in the rate of return for this class of stocks.  If that is the
case, and I may be wrong, then that would also be considered fraudulent
intent (securities manipulation, pump and dump, other SEC/FINRA
violations).

Impossible to penetrate the sites?  Don't know.  I prefer a simpler
approach to life:  work hard, no shortcuts, make money, retire and open a
Jimmy John's.  That's it, man.  Once you turn a certain age, all of the
hype about "danger" and "risk" isn't all that appealing.  I mean,
seriously, go cook at a restaurant or something, then become a manager,
open your own, make some wise choices and investments, and live a simple
and happy life *without* fucking over other people.  It might not be as
exciting and you might not get that big house and nice car tomorrow, but
if you're not a complete fucking idiot and do things right, you *will* be
happier.  Trust me.  Living proof, and living the dream.

Hope you think about that, and if you don't, can't say I didn't try to do
my part to give a little friendly advice and hope to help someone better
their life.  Zero drama, man, that's where it's at.

From: lyger <lyger-attrition.org>
To: Omoria <omorye007@yahoo.com>
Bcc: security curmudgeon <jericho-attrition.org>
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2012 11:14:58 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: Re: Hacking Services?


No Skype.  I'm actually working right now, earning a paycheck.

From: lyger <lyger-attrition.org>
To: Omoria <omorye007@yahoo.com>
Bcc: security curmudgeon <jericho-attrition.org>
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2012 11:26:01 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: Re: Hacking Services?


Depends on your definition of "hacker", but it's irrelevant either way
really.  I prefer being called "good husband and hard worker".  Most other
tags are meaningless in the big picture.

From: lyger <lyger-attrition.org>
To: Omoria <omorye007@yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 12:08:45 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: Re: Hacking Services?


What do you mean by "trace"?

From: lyger <lyger-attrition.org>
To: Omoria <omorye007@yahoo.com>
Bcc: security curmudgeon <jericho-attrition.org>
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 12:31:56 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: Re: Hacking Services?


Do they have Google in Nigeria?

From: lyger <lyger-attrition.org>
To: Omoria <omorye007@yahoo.com>
Bcc: security curmudgeon <jericho-attrition.org>
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 13:00:36 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: Re: Hacking Services?


Why so sarcastic?  Do you know how many emails we get here from people
wanting "help" for doing things that are either 1) easy to find on Google,
or 2) illegal?  We get a LOT, and therefore, I'm entitled to be sarastic,
so "SYH" all you want.  Including our last conversation, you've now asked
for both of those types of "help".  I'm sure you're a nice guy and all,
but I'm not interested in "helping" you in any way past the original
advice I gave you, which was basically to quit doing illegal shit and go
live a happy and *honest* life.  It really doesn't get much simpler than
that.

From: lyger <lyger-attrition.org>
To: Omoria <omorye007@yahoo.com>
Bcc: security curmudgeon <jericho-attrition.org>
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 13:55:34 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: Re: Hacking Services?


1.  Asking how to trace an IP address is not illegal.  Asking someone to
hack into an email database, which you did in your first email to me, is
illegal.  I stand by my original comment.

2. Oil?  Irrelevant.  I invested in natural gas before it hit its current
10-year low.  However, I did it legally and I have the patience to wait
for the market to come back, not get worked into a get-rich-quick scheme.

3. You don't know if I'm white, black, Indian, or Asian.  I will admit to
not being Jewish, however.  Nothing against the fine folks, I'm just not.

No podcast or feed.  You can start here:

http://attrition.org/postal/

From: lyger <lyger-attrition.org>
To: Omoria <omorye007@yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 15:38:23 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: Re: Hacking Services?


1 and 2 were perfectly on point.  1: You solicited someone to commit a
crime for you, which is illegal, so your comment about you not doing
anything illegal is false in regards to hacking email databases.  2: Oil
is irrelevant.  You brought it up first.

3.  You said I sounded like a "typical white dude".  How is that not
racial?

And so many posts and email convos about us never being *successfully*
sued.  Ponder that.

http://attrition.org/postal/legal.html