<div>I guess the basic question is:</div>
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<div>As people who are aware of data breeches how can we alert others that is is NOT just about credit.<br><br>Rodney<br><br> </div>
<div><span class="gmail_quote">On 4/29/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">security curmudgeon</b> <<a href="mailto:jericho@attrition.org">jericho@attrition.org</a>> wrote:</span>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid"><br>: Question 1<br>: Is is just about your credit?<br>:<br>: If someone gets you SSN or SIN (Canida) they can do a lot more than get
<br>: cash. If they get medical treatment for ... I don't know ... a heart<br>: problem of even... HIV do you think you will ever get insurance again?<br><br>Hopefully someone in the health care industry can speak up on this but a
<br>few points.<br><br>Many (most? all?) hospitals require photo ID for everything now. While we<br>know that a bad guy can do a full identity theft, including getting a new<br>license or birth certificate, it does require a dedicated person. They ask
<br>for the photo ID with insurance card, which you'd also have to get issued.<br>Some hospitals actually train their staff (a full class) on handling photo<br>ID, recognizing aspects that would be suspicious (birth date, etc) and how
<br>to respond. This has lead to some cases where the person using a stolen<br>identity recived medical treatment, walked out of the hospital all better,<br>only to be arrested immediately as the hospital staff watched (they knew
<br>what was going on but wouldn't deny treatment of course).<br><br>Some hospitals use computer systems that have routines specifically<br>designed to flag possible identity theft. Various incidents (most related<br>
to billing I assume) will flag a record with a potential identity theft<br>marker which is visible to any hospital employee who loads the record.<br>Employees are trained to act normal and provide treatment but call a<br>
special security number (internal to the hospital) and trained security<br>staff respond.<br><br>This leads one to wonder if the DMV when re-issuing a license might notice<br>discrepancies. Eye color goes from blue to brown, hair color, height,
<br>weight .. how many changes before someone says "wait"?<br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Dataloss Mailing List (<a href="mailto:dataloss@attrition.org">dataloss@attrition.org</a>)<br>
<a href="http://attrition.org/dataloss">http://attrition.org/dataloss</a><br>Tracking more than 207 million compromised records in 634 incidents over 7 years.<br></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Rodney Wise
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