Ok, I was reading through the defacements tonight, and was sort of caught off guard when I had received commentary on one of my last works.  Now,  it's not the simple fact that someone had commented, but just how it came through, leaving me with mixed emotions.  Thanks for responding though,  kept me thinking, and thinking on most levels is good.  heh heh  

        I'm not sure who ph33r the b33r exactly is,  but I'm glad that they agreed with me, even if it is to some minute extent.  However, one particular point of their text stuck in my mind. "Don't even argue when i say war = progress, because it does". Well,  those were good examples they gave, but if we dig deeper into it, what does that say about humans?  We need destruction and chaos which slows us down, in order to speed us up technological wise in a punctuated equilibrium type effect, as in short bursts over long periods of time..?  

       So yes my friends, I too agree with them to a certain point on that when things get shaken up, we are encouraged to produce better things.  HOWEVER,  I don't feel that war is the total answer for all of this.  "Necessity is the mother of invention", a wise man once said.  It's not because we had war that we made these great items, it's because we needed something to get a said job done.  This means that if the government sees something as an object in their daily obstacle course, they'll develop something to get passed it, and then maybe release it into the public for our use.. 

        So, While war is a good catalyst for improvement, it's not the best reason.  If it takes that many lives to make a car, or to have a computer, maybe the whole human race should have just been completely obliterated by some godly act, to save the pain we would cause for each other later on.   Who needs technology if we would never have existed?  Think about it my friends.  No pollution, no hunger, no bombs, no nothing.  What I'm simply trying to say is that people are violent by nature of course, and war does make way for improvement, but what makes for war?  That brings me back to the point about egos clashing, and the quest for being the best starting avoidable conflicts.  

         Oh yeah, and also.  I don't think you (ph33r the b33r) fully got what I was saying when I said unite.  Teams are cool to belong to for a small unity, a tribe, a family and such.  When I said unity, I mean as in within all the hackers and all the groups alike.  It's most likely never going to happen with us all,  yeah.. but if you try to be ethical, and I do, and everyone else trys to, that would make everyone great.  

        On one last note, I'm glad I have reached anyone, and even if anyone has disagreed, I still have made people think.  People don't seem to be doing that anymore these days (homogenous haircut people, pokemon kids, boy-band freaks).  Question everything right and wrong.  Question your religion, question why you question, and question everything you do.   Have fun, and good luck to everyone in "the scene".   Well,  I'm heading out to a rave hopefully.  See ya.

 -nytek (or whoever the fuck I used to be)   03/24/00

Shouts to:  baller, OutOfBound, syonic, dnile, goldan, and ze1tge1st of TZG.  Also to Blackt ("snotnose"), snupe, sectorX, slip]{not, nemesystm, hal0, hysta (keep in touch),  ph33r the b33r (hope we can debate some more), and everyone else who is able to type, click, and blow stuff up to better my online surfing adventures.