Defaced by slash [ 2.1.2000 ] Original site here
     www.badjura-petri.com - I got some interesting mail in the last few days that I want to share with You. The first one is from a Security Consultant David Hove, who works for a company named "RISCmanagment Inc." (www.riscman.com), and this is what he wrote to me in his mail :

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Numb Nuts,

Your judgments lay upon broken young souls who know no better. Let it be! Hackers will hack regardless of holes previously exploited. If the sys adm does not fix their holes this is not the issue. Hacking for fame is not the issue. You yourself mailed your hack in for recognition did you not. STOP THE HYPOCRISY AND SIMPLY HACK. Who the hell are U to dictate what should be placed on a defaced website? I personally work the other side of the fence specializing in keeping you out but thoroughly enjoy watching you and others like you go about your daily routine. Exploiting port 80, buffer overflows, running your little scripts, ect. Fuck ethics! The harder you try to hack the more aware we become as admins. For those admins who do not keep up Fuckem!


David Hove
Security Consultant
CCSA/CCSE
RISCmanagement Inc.                                                                           
www.riscman.com

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      Deer Mr. David, your email made me very sad because I realized that people don't get the message I'm trying to say. Hacking previously hacked sites is considered lame, and yes, hacking for fame is the issue. Hackers now adays hack only to get media attention. In my country a 16 year old Back Orifice user was raided for "hacking" a computer of a Croatian politian. The media made a national hero out of him. In the interview he said that he could hack into a bank with just two of his friends and a good computer. Now, people who read that newspaper bought the story, but people who know young Denis via IRC can confirm that he is a complete idiot an a lamer. His parents are so proud of him, not knowing that anyone can "hack" using Back Orifice.       

      About me mailing my hack to attrition. Yes, I did mail the hack to attrition, you know why !? I deface to spread the message out. I personally think if I just deface the site that people wont notice it. So I report it to attrition and they put a mirror of the site I defaced so other people can view it too. I don't do it for the fame. I could hack under a different name everytime, but this is my style. I don't got braging on IRC "I hacked this..", "I hacked that..". I don't have to prove my skillz to anyone. People can respect me or hate me. I sincerely doubt that defacing a site will make me look better infront of my friends. Almost anyone can find himself a remote exploit and run it against the server. But not anyone can secure a Unix server, program or even make html. For me defacing is just expressing my opinion on stuff, nothing more.

      About 'fuck the ethics' thing. Mr. David, the ethics are here to prevent a major chaos. Without ethics people would just go around and delete anything they run into. I suggest every hacker to stick to the ethics as close as he can, hell, that's why they were written. I know people forget about them, but there are always people like me to remind hackers about the ethics. That's the balance. People don't stick to them, they life stupid messages like "I 0wn3 j00". I tell You people, that's bad. Can't You just write something. Anything, just not these stupid irritating messages. Ok, we started another discussion here. "Who the hell are U to dictate what should be placed on a defaced website?" - You say. Well, Your right. I'm nobody. I can't dictate what should be placed on a defaced website. But I can suggest people not to do it. I just suggested it, I didn't dictate or order it.

      "The harder you try to hack the more aware we become as admins." - Aware ?! If I deface Your site ten times, and don't tell You how I got in, You become more aware !? I damage Your company for 10.000 $ by defacing it, because people say: "How can they secure my server when they can't even secure their own." And nobody wants Your service anymore. Don't get me wrong. I'm sure You're a very good and experienced administrator, but nothing is secure enough, that hackers can't brake it.

      That's what we devoted Our lives to, penetrating systems. I enjoy hacking. That is really something unique. People through ages have always wanted to do something that's forbidden or illegal. Just remind Yourself of Adam & Eve, and the Heaven garden. Eve had to eat that apple alldo God gave them everything they needed, and just forbid them to eat apples from that tree. Hacking is illegal in many countries. You could get worse sentence for hacking than for murdering someone.  I don't really care if I get raided.  Hacking is my crime. A crime out of passion. Respect me or hate me, the choice is Yours.

                                                                                     - Peace out, slash

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Shoutouts
     - p4riah, LogError, zanith, v00d00, PHC, THC, attrition.org, net-security.org, ex1t, sAs72, Cruciphux,  HWA.hax0r.news, BHZ, SiRiUs, sLina, kLick_Mi, Emptyhead, mosthated, pr1sm ,fuqraq, airWalk, [Princev], zeroeffect, and the whole BLN.

    - Peace to my man whitecee, keep Youre head up. Peace to everyone who gave support via email or IRC. I wish You a happy and a bug-free New Year.

     Links...
     - Attrition.org: Keep up the good work fellows
     - HelpNet Security: The best news site on the net
     - Black Lava Network: BLN for life !!!                                                     


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