After the initial set of threatening emails, Schlossberg continued to mail. The rest of the correspondance is included here, unedited.
From: Louis Cipher (loucifer@s-mail.com) To: jericho[at]attrition.org Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 21:11:52 +0000 Subject: shoddy journalism Brian, You are are going from the sublime to the absurd. Pulling a gun on friends. You do not know any of my friends. A weapon can be drawn in self-defense only. CDuniverse: It is true work began in Feb of 2000 and SYNC left at the end of June, because CDuniverse was sold back to the original owner and Euniverse which owned CDuniverse(who was the client was Euniverse not CD) was sold to the prior owner, who was subsequently arrested for child pornography. We did in fact continue to work for Euniverse/myspace after Sept 2000. Erog, the use of the word extortion, is your fatal error Brian, as this and you cannot defend against libel, regardless of anti-SLAPP. I am surprised at you and your "immense" legal knowledge. Israeli mob, you are are really reaching with this one, Israeli military is appropriate. Anything to the contrary was told to you by a racist. Not paying employees is true. I would not pay anyone who did not completeany work. There were two court cases, the first was dismissed in small claims court after a 10 minute hearing, the judge literally through the case out as well as the palintiff. The other employee had a major difficuly with the term "imperio delecto" and and cowardly and sheepishly disappeared into his own guilt. Hacking a company for business, I can understand these cowards who hide under your skirt with BS comments. So, name one company, clent etc that was a victim. You certainly can do that without giving out the name of your source. If you can't, redact the allegation. Brian, I think you have the reputation of hacking companies, as you have admitted to the press. As to William Schwartau, you have not contacted or did any diligence with Dr. Eugene Schultz to discover that William is fundamentally full of BS as it relates to me. Brian, if your are an honest " ", you will publish the truth or publish nothing. Enough is enough already with shoddy journalism, and I do finf it somewhat interesting, that none of your sources have ever contacted me, called the police etc. Everybody has to pay their taxes, do you. Scientia Est Potentia
The blank in quotes above was how Barry mailed. Nothing was removed.
From: Louis Cipher (loucifer@s-mail.com) To: jericho[at]attrition.org Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2011 21:22:03 +0000 Subject: more Brian, Since you cannot even assert extortion, if you would like the name of who we reported to at cduniverse/euniverse/myspace. His name was Christopher Lipp, last known location Santa Monica. He is a well respected attorney and you can find him. Hacking, I am an old man, what would I know about the contemporary definition of that word as it relates to computers to, electronics, etc Scientia Est Potentia
From: Louis Cipher (loucifer@s-mail.com) To: jericho[at]attrition.org Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 20:00:03 +0000 Subject: nonsense Brian, It appears I wasted my time. I am convinced you are acting with malice, as you have many people before me. Your allegations of criminal acts, of which the burden of proof will have to be with you first and then the indivduals who fed you this bullshit. I believe I win gain relief quickly and the damages will be significant. Libel of this type is not going to be defensible by anti-SLAPP. I hope you have many pennies in your piggybank Bottom line, the individuals that are hiding behind you will be exposed and deposed. Ergo, this is my last request that you redact the lies, half truths, etc. Why don't you have an attorney review your most current webpage http://attrition.org/errata/charlatan/watch_list/barry_schlossberg/ and tweets about me. I think if your attorneys agree with you, could you be professional enough to give your attorneys name to me. Please do the right and HONEST action. note bene: sociopath is priceless, I guess that would make me charming and affable, a sexual deviant and many other character traits. I don't think I ever was charming or affable and certainly a sexual deviant or pathological liar. The phrase used currently is borderline personality, at least get your BS right. We had a well industrial psychologist on premises at sNET, and verybody was tested. I knew who were the socioponic passive aggressives who worked for me, so this should be amusing.
From: security curmudgeon (jericho[at]attrition.org) To: Louis Cipher (loucifer@s-mail.com) Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 03:08:29 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: shoddy journalism : Pulling a gun on friends. You do not know any of my friends. A weapon : can be drawn in self-defense only. How do you know who I have talked to? : continue to work for Euniverse/myspace after Sept 2000. Erog, the use of : the word extortion, is your fatal error Brian, as this and you cannot : defend against libel, regardless of anti-SLAPP. I am surprised at you : and your "immense" legal knowledge. Eorg? We'll assume you mean "ergo" and are trying to sound smart. Re-read the page and it is clear, that I do not say you extorted them. I cite my source: Somehow, and the provenance of this does not appear to be public, many publications quote A Brief History of Cybercrime that has a single line about it, which puts the business relationship in a very negative light: |blockquote| Barry Schlossberg (aka. Lou Cipher) is successful at extorting 1.4M from CD Universe for services rendered in attempting to catch the Russian hacker. (Jan) |blockquote| The use of the word "extort" is curious. I am quoting an external source there. That is not libelous in any fashion. I even challenge it by calling it 'curious' because the provenance does not appear to be public. : Hacking a company for business, I can understand these cowards who hide : under your skirt with BS comments. So, name one company, clent etc that : was a victim. You certainly can do that without giving out the name of : your source. If you can't, redact the allegation. Brian, I think you : have the reputation of hacking companies, as you have admitted to the : press. Actually it was universities and governments mailing, back in the day. The difference is, I wasn't hacking to solicit business, as the allegations against you go. I am still having discussions with several sources and will not provide more details at this time. If none of them can provide a name or enough details to convince me, I will remove that part due to lack of solid information. : As to William Schwartau, you have not contacted or did any diligence : with Dr. Eugene Schultz to discover that William is fundamentally full : of BS as it relates to me. I have not contacted Schultz, no. Should I? You paint him in a light that seems specifically biased in your favor. Despite that, I will reach out to him if you believe he can provide insight into any of this. If you could virtually introduce us or provide me his preferred email address, that would be great. : Enough is enough already with shoddy journalism, and I do finf it somewhat : interesting, that none of your sources have ever contacted me, called the My sources have been in contact with you at some point in the last 20 years. : police etc. Everybody has to pay their taxes, do you. I certainly do. Did you / SNET?
From: security curmudgeon (jericho[at]attrition.org) To: Louis Cipher (loucifer@s-mail.com) Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 03:09:40 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: more : Since you cannot even assert extortion, if you would like the name of : who we reported to at cduniverse/euniverse/myspace. His name was : Christopher Lipp, last known location Santa Monica. He is a well : respected attorney and you can find him. Thanks, but we have a different name at CD Universe that we are trying to track down. If we can't reach him, I will then try to reach out to Lipp. : Hacking, I am an old man, what would I know about the contemporary : definition of that word as it relates to computers to, electronics, etc You know it more from the days of Multics eh?
From: security curmudgeon (jericho[at]attrition.org) To: Louis Cipher (loucifer@s-mail.com) Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 03:24:40 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: nonsense : It appears I wasted my time. I am convinced you are acting with malice, : as you have many people before me. Your allegations of criminal acts, of : which the burden of proof will have to be with you first and then the : indivduals who fed you this bullshit. Once again, read the page. At the end, I specifically disclaim them as what we have been told and further say: We have heard wild tales, that we *have not verified*, [..] You will not get a judgement for that. Fact: we have heard stories about you. Fact: we have not verified a lot of what we have been told. Two facts, do not make libel. : Bottom line, the individuals that are hiding behind you will be exposed : and deposed. They will not. As a journalist, I will not give up my sources. : Ergo, this is my last request that you redact the lies, half truths, etc. : Why don't you have an attorney review your most current : webpage http://attrition.org/errata/charlatan/watch_list/barry_schlossberg/ : and tweets about me. I think if your attorneys agree with you, : could you be professional enough to give your attorneys name to me. I had a professor of journalism, a journalist and a lawyer review it. None of them felt anything on the page was libelous since I am citing external sources for the material you find objectionable. Once again, if my sources cannot provide details by the end of our discussions, that seem credible or can be verified, I will remove the last bit. Until then, I simply have too many people that have no knowledge of each other, all telling me the same type of story about you. : Please do the right and HONEST action. That is all I have done so far. You are the one that resorted to legal threats, vague threats of violence, incredibly stupid assertions of who I slept with, where I lived, who I am and more. Worse, the more I dig on you, the more questions come up. : note bene: sociopath is priceless, I guess that would make me charming and : affable, a sexual deviant and many other character traits. I don't think I : ever was charming or affable and certainly a sexual deviant or pathological : liar. The phrase used currently is borderline personality, at least get : your BS right. We had a well industrial psychologist on premises at sNET, : and verybody was tested. : I knew who were the socioponic passive aggressives who worked for me, so : this should be amusing. And if you continue looking at some of the traits associated with sociopaths, it would also make you: -Manipulative and conning -Grandiose sense of self -Pathological lying -Lack of remorse, shame or guilt -Shallow emotions -Callousness/lack of empathy -Criminal or entrepreneurial versatility -Contemptuous of those who seek to understand them -Does not perceive that anything is wrong with them -Authoritarian -Secretive -Paranoid -Goal of enslavement of their victim(s) -Exercises despotic control over every aspect of the victim's life -Narcissism, grandiosity (self-importance not based on achievements) Some of that list certainly seems true about you, solely based on emails between us.
From: security curmudgeon (jericho[at]attrition.org) To: Louis Cipher (loucifer@s-mail.com) Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 04:33:21 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: shoddy journalism : CDuniverse: It is true work began in Feb of 2000 and SYNC left at the : end of June, because CDuniverse was sold back to the original owner and : Euniverse which owned CDuniverse(who was the client was Euniverse not : CD) was sold to the prior owner, who was subsequently arrested for child : pornography. We did in fact continue to work for Euniverse/myspace after : Sept 2000. Erog, the use of the word extortion, is your fatal error : Brian, as this and you cannot defend against libel, regardless of : anti-SLAPP. I am surprised at you and your "immense" legal knowledge. To help with your "immense" search engine knowledge, try this: http://www.google.com/search?q=barry+schlossberg+extorting+cd+universe Whoever wrote the 'Brief History' should be your target, not me (we quote it and reference the source). That is the origin of the word 'extort' as far as your relationship with CD Universe. As i said several times, we cannot determine the provenance of that claim. No other article we have found suggests extortion.
From: Louis Cipher (loucifer@s-mail.com) To: jericho[at]attrition.org Date: Sat, 03 Sep 2011 17:01:51 +0000 Subject: the end http://www.search.com/reference/Timeline_of_hacker_history#2000 Brian, The above was the final entry in wikipedia before it dropped the whole incident from their timeline. Extortion was intitially there and subsequently replaced with the above. The original submission to wikipedia was by an individual with the initials of jbl. I am very glad you allegedly had a professor,journalist and attorney review your webpage. It is not relevant until you have the coutesy to have your attorney(pro bono or not) contact mine(yes he is a sr partner in securities work, but if you understood the food chain in large law firms, the intake partner diatributes his clients actions to other practice groups). You are naive and I think you are short on jack, and attempt to play legal poker. There is a anecdote in business, "you are no bigger than your capital" and it applies to you. I agree with your knowledge about anti-SLAPP, yes freedom of speech trumps libel on the Fed level, but state court judges, particularly in Florida and other states, are like the wild west. The website being your hobby defines you, it possesses you and you feel compelled. You also hope it brings some notoriety to you to get more freelance gigs. Your statement that you are a journalist, is probably by your definition only. Are you paid as a journalist and by whom ? I do realize that there is a blurry line between legitimate journalism and self publishing and that is a significan problem of the infosphere. Personnally as you dig into me you will much good and some bad, entrepreneurs do many things and half the companies they start, fail. This begs the question, how many people are willing to be an entrepreneur and the stomach and persistence. Sociopath, when you gave additional syptoms and manifestations, why do you never give credit to your source data. This not a good journalistic SOP. When you do give reference credits, they are always to sources which are non-verifiable. By your definition of sociopath, i think it fits you and William/Winn more aptly, or I would not have gone through the last four years of life in a voltaile emotional, due to my wife. The section of your dealing with weapons is very interesting considering one of your unverified libelous statements about me. This section will get people hurt as any handgun is inadequate in home defense, and shotgun with attached 200-500 lumens lighting is the minimum. The para ordinance handgun is a middle of the pact handgun. In closing, I swore to myself I would not write to you, having handed the matter over to several law firms. Since you won't chat on the phone because it confuses things, is pure BS. You can call me and record the call. I have not vaguely threatened you with any physical threats. In the event you do not reveal your sources even under court order, we will probably bringa separate suit against the individuals that are known to have fed you BS, starting with William/Winn. 15 minutes of fame, I have never sort out fame or notoriety. The whole lou cifer started out as a spoof on the movie Angel Heart, and I was wrong in letting it get out of hand and even starting it. It was a spoof and goof on the infosec industry as to it's ineffictiveness in dealing with cybercrime than and now. 5 thousand a day was made up you, not me. When I spoke to a Wall Street reporter she kept trying to peg me down. I should have responded with 10,000 to 10 million. BTW, I don't bill hourly or per diem, but by engagement. Close friends of mine, nope, you have not chatted with any. If someone is a friend of mine, given whom some of them, they would not have anything to do with the likes of you. Please have your attorney contact my attorney, for the benefit of both of us. You won't. The only enemehy I have concerns with are "amateurs" not pros. Amateurs are a pain in the ass. Goodbye and good "luck"
From: Louis Cipher (loucifer@s-mail.com) To: jericho[at]attrition.org Date: Sun, 04 Sep 2011 04:37:14 +0000 Subject: Israel Brian, I just caught the line that Israeli military is more appropriate than mob. They are two different and distinct groups and mindsets. I had wrote that this comment(Israeli mob) was made by a racist, anti-semite. You are baiting me which is fine, beause the more energized I get about this subject and others will come out in the wash. You now have some Israeli groups interested in who the f_ck you are, good luck. Add the fact William/Winn owns one of Hitler's microphones, and I see where this going. Nice photo, there are better ones. I apologize about stating Lamo was you, after reading what happened to him in 2003. About not giving up sources, have you ever done time for contempt.