I am leaving full headers in for validity but will explain. Shortly after the release of 'syn flood' code in Phrack magazine, se7en claimed that he had ported the 'syn flood' attack from a TCP/IP network (like the internet) to the phone network. Carolyn Meinel of all people, calls him on this and asks for more info. To anyone in the telco industry, they will realize his claims are totally bogus. In typical se7en fashion, he tries to remain vague and aloof to cover his lies.
Lines proceeded by double colon (::) are Meinel's, single colon (:) are se7en's reply.
From email@example.com Sat May 24 02:06:20 1997 Date: Fri, 23 May 1997 12:35:03 -0600 (MDT) From: "Carolyn P. Meinel" (firstname.lastname@example.org) To: jericho[at]dimensional.com Subject: se7en's "syn attack" on a circuit-switched network:) :Received: from brute.hway.net (brute.hway.net [184.108.40.206]) by kitsune.swcp.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id JAA20988 for (email@example.com); Sun, 10 Nov 1996 09:48:14 -0700 :Received: by brute.hway.net (950413.SGI.8.6.12/951211.SGI) : for firstname.lastname@example.org id LAA10312; Sun, 10 Nov 1996 11:47:54 -0500 :Received: from merde.dis.org by brute.hway.net via ESMTP (950413.SGI.8.6.12/951211.SGI) : for
id LAA10300; Sun, 10 Nov 1996 11:47:52 -0500 :Received: from kizmiaz.dis.org (kizmiaz.dis.org [220.127.116.11]) by merde.dis.org (8.7.5/8.6.11) with ESMTP id IAA12730 for (email@example.com); Sun, 10 Nov 1996 08:47:51 -0800 (PST) :Received: (se7en@localhost) by kizmiaz.dis.org (8.7.4/8.6.12) id JAA04749; Sun, 10 Nov 1996 09:07:00 -0800 (PST) :Date: Sun, 10 Nov 1996 09:06:59 -0800 (PST) :From: se7en (firstname.lastname@example.org) :To: Carolyn Meinel (email@example.com) :In-Reply-To: :Message-ID: :MIME-Version: 1.0 :Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII :X-UIDL: 8a18549d37218c48803e7f0db3ad29a7 :Status: RO :X-Status: : :On Sun, 10 Nov 1996, Carolyn Meinel wrote: : :: Se7en, your reference to a syn attack on the phone lines is just a litle :: too elliptical at present for the Happy Hacker list. Would you care to :: elaborate? : :Geez, that's a shocker! Actually it is, considering some of the names on :your list. *Somebody* there should be able to figure it out. : :: I presume you mean CDPD (cellular digital packet data)? To my knowledge :: that is the only use of TCP/IP over the analog phone system (excluding, of :: course, the use of modems in which TCP/IP is encoded using analog sound). :: If I am out of date, I would appreciate the information. In any case, if I :: post this I would like enough detail so that the readers know what you are :: actually talking about.) : :My porting released t from it's TCP/IP structure and operation. : :se7en : Carolyn Meinel M/B Research -- The Technology Brokers http://techbroker.com