Carolyn P. Meinel is under FBI investigation. Worse, she has hindered the investigation by not submitting to a polygraph lie detector test when asked. =-= 1. She admits to it in mail to Netmask. Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 14:38:33 -0700 To: netmask@303.org From: Carolyn Meinel (cmeinel@techbroker.com) Subject: Re: [aaa-list] When C is banned, only criminals will code in C Sorry to anger you, but thank you for helping me out some. After all, we are both in the same boat with the FBI dumb enough to consider us both suspects in the HFG case. I'll bet you are probably as insulted as I am at the idea that the FBI would think we could be that childish. Carolyn Meinel M/B Research http://www.techbroker.com =-= 2. She admits to it in mail to me and Infowar. From: "Carolyn Meinel" (cmeinel@hotmail.com) To: winn@infowar.com Cc: jericho@dimensional.com, betty@infowar.com Subject: Press Release Date: Mon, 07 Dec 1998 05:25:12 PST Since I know you all love me so much. Are you guy going to my press release? Yes, the FBI spent years spying on the late Chicago Tribune humor columnist Mike Royko. Now why is the FBI trying to intimidate Happy Hacker's Carolyn Meinel? A press conference 11 AM Dec. 16 in New York City will reveal all! =-= 3. She admits to it in her own press release. Meinel press release WHAT: Meinel to speak out for the first time about harassment by the FBI, accusing her of participating with Hackers for Girliez in recent web attacks on New York Times and other sites. In what has become a provocative freedom of speech case, Meinel is being criticized and threatened by both law enforcement and the hacker communities for revealing too much information on hacker technology. =-= 4. She admits to it in her 'Inside Happy Hacker' list. Full Text Subject: Inside Happy Hacker -- A Wagame Winner! Jan. 4, 1999 Oct. 26 an Albuquerque FBI agent, Tracy Baldwin, told me it was urgent that I meet her at the local headquarters the next day. I presumed she was interested in getting more information to help her solve the case. I had caught the Girliez in the middle of an August 7 attack on Rt66 Internet and prevented them from doing a lot more damage than they did do. Also, I know a thing or two about computer security, as shown, for example, in my Oct. 1998 article in "Scientific American" magazine. It seemed logical that Baldwin would want my help in solving the case. I was wrong. In a bare interrogation room featuring manacles bolted to the desk behind which she sat, Baldwin told me I was a suspect in the New York Times hack. She demanded that I take a lie detector test. I consulted with four lawyers. They all said the FBI only gives lie detector tests to trick someone into saying something that will get them arrested. Oct. 30 I told Baldwin I would not take the test. She got pretty ugly about it, tying to persuade me I'd better take the test if I didn't want to be arrested. Nov. 10, Dr. Mark Ludwig, publisher of "The Happy Hacker book," went along as a witness with me to the Albuquerque FBI office. There we met with three agents: Doug Beldon, Roger Black, and Baldwin. Beldon told Ludwig, "Sure, she's a suspect." They subjected me to over an hour of browbeating, warning me that if I didn't take a lie detector test, my chances of arrest would increase. I sat there and said nothing -- and took notes. It was a fascinating opportunity to observe how the FBI tries to intimidate innocent people into incriminating themselves. Guess what -- Doug Beldon has a certificate in his office saying he is a graduate of the Rush Limbaugh Institute. It figures. Does this mean that I will no longer cooperate with the FBI in bringing the Hacking for Girliez gang to justice? Because the FBI has not backed down claiming I am a suspect, I no longer dare talk to them. However, I am still tying to bring the Girliez to justice by helping others to catch them. For example, as reported in the Forbes magazine article, I arranged with =-= 5. She admits to it again on her mail list. Inside Happy Hacker, Jan. 19, 1999 Full Text Here's the FBI situation as best as I can see it: 1) They have *not* sent me (Carolyn) a "target letter." This is a letter that formally tells someone that he or she is a suspect. Since I have *not* gotten one, I presume they have given up on thinking I'm a suspect in the Web site hack of the New York Times on Sept. 13, 1998. There is no news of any arrests or even any raids of other possible suspects. I have heard from reporter friends that two other people have been visited by the FBI and questioned and that they got the impression that they are suspects. I also have heard that the FBI asked the owner of Denver ISP for permission to view his logs but that he refused. I'm guessing the FBI has run out of leads. Usually if no arrests are made within 90 days of a crime, the case is dead. -- Carolyn "Grand Pooh-bah" Meinel =-= 6. She admits to it in a Wired article. http://www.wired.com/news/news/culture/story/16872.html "The FBI has no rational reason to consider me a suspect," said Carolyn Meinel, a New Mexico computer security consultant. When told by FBI agents that she was a suspect, Meinel said she was asked to take a lie detector test. She agreed at first, but following the advice of lawyers and friends, Meinel later refused. =-= 7. The guily part admits she is involved. From the September 1998 New York Times web defacement: TH1S T1ME, CAR0LYN M3INEL ASKED US TO HIT A B1GG3R AND M0RE TRAFFICKED SIT3. SH3 T0LD US TH3 0THER DAY THAT SH3 1Z ALM0ST D0N3 W1TH THE B00K. 1TZ AMAZ1NG H0W SH3 SP1NS TH1NGZ AR0UND. H3R3 W3 TH0UGHT SH3 W0ULD G3T MAD AT US F0R BR3AK1NG 0UR AGR33M3NT, BUT SH3 SA1D "D0N'T W0RRY HFG, N0 0N3 W1LL BEL1EVE YOU S1NCE Y0U AR3 BLACKHAT HACK3RS. B3SID3Z, TH1S ADDS M0RE MYST3RY AND SUSP3NCE F0R ME. C0NTR0V3RSY SELLZ!". 0K. 1F Y0U S4Y S0.